Would NFL players still be hilarious obese if they played more?

[Imran Siddiqui]

Some have some fat (like Tony Siragusa), but a great, great amount of muscle mass as well.

[Asher]

Football players are pussies. It's a fact.

Check this out: (WARNING: Not work-safe, not kid-safe, not for those with weak stomachs/football players) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_CI7c-rxFMU

He was only out for a couple weeks.

[Lorizael]

Originally posted by Asher

There are no real answers other than these guys are, by and large, out of shape.

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Well, that answers my question.

[Asher]

Originally posted by snoopy369
This is NOT true. Football players are in far, far better shape than most athletes. Lineman may be 300 pounds, but it's muscle, not fat. Still not good for them - their hearts aren't any bigger or stronger, for the most part - but they're extremely strong guys. And that's only the linemen; the rest of the team are much smaller, 200-250 pounds (and less for some WRs) and extremely lean muscular types. Brian Urlacher probably has at most 5 pounds of fat on his body, and for the life of me I don't know where he puts it.

Baseball players are fat (ie, the Puckster). Football players are NOT fat.

Somebody better inform the American Medical Association then, because they certainly thinks a huge portion of NFL players are obese.

[snoopy369]

You are probably referring to the various BMI (Body Mass Index) studies that show that a bit over 50% of NFL athletes are fat. These studies are NOT accurate for NFL athletes, as they do not determine the fat content; they're based on the normal fat to muscle ratio of a normal adult, and thus do not accurately measure a guy who's 350 pounds but has an extremely high muscle:fat ratio, like NFL linemen. The NFL has repeatedly proven that BMI is extremely inaccurate for football players.

NFL players, once they retire, get fat - for the same reason that all of us get fat when we go from active lifestyles to sedentary ones. Their metabolism crashes but their eating does not adjust properly.

This is not saying that it's particularly healthy to be 350 pounds of muscle - as I said earlier - but it's not fat.

[Asher]

Looking at a lot of these linesmen and their huge guts, you can't be telling me that's muscle...

Muscle doesn't look like beerbellys.

[Lorizael]

Watch defensive lineman leap over offensive lineman to get a hand up on a QB's pass. It's muscle.

[Asher]

LOOK AT ALL OF THAT MUSCCCLLLEE

[snoopy369]

Originally posted by Asher
Football players are pussies. It's a fact.

Check this out: (WARNING: Not work-safe, not kid-safe, not for those with weak stomachs/football players) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_CI7c-rxFMU

He was only out for a couple weeks.

What's your point? I've seen quarterbacks dislocate their shoulders, get it popped back into place, and then keep playing... and if you've ever dislocated your shoulder you know that it HURTS LIKE HECK and getting it popped back is EVEN WORSE ... true, they get injuries like snapped ACLs and MCLs and such and have to go out for a while; but that's because the knee STOPS WORKING. Playing with an injury that will get significantly worse isn't bravery, it's stupidity.

This is just another of your fanboi elements, Asher ... I'd never call hockey players pussies, because they're not. I'm not necessarily sure if NFL players or NHL players are 'braver' or more prone to serious injuries ... but you're just arguing a stupid point to say that NFL players are 'pussies' and don't play hard. That's blatantly not true, whether or not NHL players are more brave or play harder.

[snoopy369]

Originally posted by Asher
LOOK AT ALL OF THAT MUSCCCLLLEE

That's a college player, if not high school, and one that isn't going to the next level in any event.

Certainly some linemen have some fat - and in men, most fat goes directly to the belly. But a 350 pound player with 40 pounds of fat isn't obese. He's frickin ripped, with a bit of a belly. He probably has more stomach muscles under that belly than you'll ever have.

[Asher]

Hockey players aren't pussies, but football players are obese and only manage to play once a week. They are, comparatively, pussies.

Hell, it's not unusual for NHL players to play 3 games in 4 nights.

[Asher]

Originally posted by snoopy369
That's a college player, if not high school, and one that isn't going to the next level in any event.

Certainly some linemen have some fat - and in men, most fat goes directly to the belly. But a 350 pound player with 40 pounds of fat isn't obese. He's frickin ripped, with a bit of a belly. He probably has more stomach muscles under that belly than you'll ever have.

So why is it that 250lbs hockey players don't look fat at all, but 250lbs football players do?

I'm missing the connection here of why football players look fat but are all muscle while hockey players don't look fat?

[snoopy369]

Asher, that's BS. You have no evidence for that (that's relevant) and still haven't refuted my major point: if they COULD play more than once a week, don't you think they would? There's a huge amount of money out there.

Go play a few seasons of NFL football, then come back to me and tell me that they can play more than once a week. You wouldn't have NFL players retiring at an average age of 32 or so if they were 'weak'.

Beside the point, you simply shouldn't call players 'pussies' because they're only a 9.5 out of 10 instead of a 9.7 ... that's just stupid.

[Asher]

Originally posted by snoopy369
Asher, that's BS. You have no evidence for that (that's relevant) and still haven't refuted my major point: if they COULD play more than once a week, don't you think they would? There's a huge amount of money out there.

Why would the players agree to play more? They're already getting insane salaries and I don't see that going up if they play more.

Go play a few seasons of NFL football, then come back to me and tell me that they can play more than once a week. You wouldn't have NFL players retiring at an average age of 32 or so if they were 'weak'.

My whole point is they can't play more than once a week. Look at them. They're not built for endurance, many of them carry lots of fat as well. They're essentially part-time athletes.

I don't accept the argument that it's the game. I see hockey players take much harder hits than in football, they get up and keep playing and play again the next night too.

Hell, look at the knee-on-knee hit on Ryan Smyth the other day. It looked brutal, but 2 days later he was playing very well again.

Hockey players play through the pain. Dion Phaneuf played 7 games in the playoff with a broken foot. Kiprusoff played a huge amount of games last year with an inflamed hip as a goaltender.

This is what differentiates pussies from non-pussies.

[snoopy369]

Originally posted by Asher

So why is it that 250lbs hockey players don't look fat at all, but 250lbs football players do?

I'm missing the connection here of why football players look fat but are all muscle while hockey players don't look fat?

First off, Hockey players CAN'T be that big and still play hockey. Speed is vital in hockey, so you don't have the players like NFL linemen.

Secondly, NFL linemen are 350 pounds, not 250. They have an advantage to being slower but bulkier, so they work on upper body strength; their arms, shoulders, pecs, etc. are HUGE - they can bench insane amounts of weight. Thus they look MUCH, MUCH bigger than NHL players, who have strength primarily in their legs and arms, and have a huge incentive to keep the bulk of the muscles down (speed).

You want to see a speedy NFL player who's 250 pounds?


He's 260 pounds. Tell me he's not as fit as a hockey player of the same weight.