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That was quick"I am sick and tired of people who say that if you debate and you disagree with this administration somehow you're not patriotic. We should stand up and say we are Americans and we have a right to debate and disagree with any administration." - Hillary Clinton, 2003 -
Nice! Good riddance Rummy!! This is turning out to be a pretty good week.
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Yeah, wow... I was surprised he didn't offer it to Libermann.“I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
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Is he leaving or staying? That would seem to be a good question to answer before celebrating.Originally posted by SlowwHand
Nothing on CNN site, but
Rumsfeld Has No Plans to Step Down, Despite Democrat Gains ...
FOX News - 1 hour ago
WASHINGTON — Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld, a key target of Iraq war critics, gave no indication Wednesday that he planned to step down in the wake of ...I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
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Maybe he did... and Lieberman just laughed.Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
Yeah, wow... I was surprised he didn't offer it to Libermann."I am sick and tired of people who say that if you debate and you disagree with this administration somehow you're not patriotic. We should stand up and say we are Americans and we have a right to debate and disagree with any administration." - Hillary Clinton, 2003Comment
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Bush is giving press conference right now. Rummy is out.Originally posted by DinoDoc
Is he leaving or staying? That would seem to be a good question to answer before celebrating."I am sick and tired of people who say that if you debate and you disagree with this administration somehow you're not patriotic. We should stand up and say we are Americans and we have a right to debate and disagree with any administration." - Hillary Clinton, 2003Comment
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Bush just announced Rumsfeld is stepping down...so...yea...Originally posted by DinoDoc
Is he leaving or staying? That would seem to be a good question to answer before celebrating."The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
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YEp. Rummy was correct in the need for a fast response military except when it came to matters of long term rebulkding and pacification.Originally posted by PLATO
Not a chance.
The American objection has never been to the boots on the ground...it has been to the stupid way they have been used. Rummy has to bear the responsibility there.
Oh...and Clinton's "Cruise missle" strategy just worked oh so well to.
He got into a spat initially with Shinseki over just such a matter. Shinseki was an old school tanker that just happens to be correct when it comes to matters of occupation. Shinseki was wrong about the need to have more traditional set piece miliatray but right in that it would necessitate having enough troops to do the policing afterwards.
I doubt however Pelosi will see the matter in this view and at this point it may be too late anyway."Just puttin on the foil" - Jeff Hanson
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Curious. I wonder where Sloww found that article then. Oh well.Originally posted by Asher
Bush just announced Rumsfeld is stepping down...so...yea...I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
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It was from msnbc.
CNN now has it on site.Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
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There is much speculation that she will tone down her liberal leanings for the next two years to try and set up a democratic Presidential candidate. If she can accomplish this and a democratic President comes in, then it will complete one of the quickest major power shifts in a very very long time.Originally posted by Ogie Oglethorpe
I doubt however Pelosi will see the matter in this view and at this point it may be too late anyway.
If, on the other hand, she tries to push policies that are far left, then the American public may very likely make the dems a two year bump in the Republican march.
Om Iraq...it is to late to make anybody feel good about it and too late to quit. We will be there for awhile yet."I am sick and tired of people who say that if you debate and you disagree with this administration somehow you're not patriotic. We should stand up and say we are Americans and we have a right to debate and disagree with any administration." - Hillary Clinton, 2003Comment
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It depends on what we intend to ask of our military. If we aren't planning on occupation/reconstruction, Rummy's ideas were good - a fast, flexible, powerful but relatively small military. But then we went and invaded Iraq, which called for a larger, more traditional force...
If we had stayed away from the occupation/reconstruction thing, as Bush initially wanted to pre-9/11, Rummy's style might've worked well. But Iraq's just too big and populous, it seems.
If we'd managed a bigger coalition... if, if, if. Anyway, I'm certainly glad he's out. To bad his boss gets to stay.
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Bush announced it? What if Rumsfeld answered "You don't go to war with the defense secretary you want, you go to war with the defense secretary you have"?BlahComment
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as im sure youre aware i like Joe ALOT, but putting a bureaucracy the size of DoD into the hands of a man whos executive experience consisted of running the Conn States Attorneys office, would perhaps not be the best idea. In some ways SecDef requires an experienced exec more than the White House does.Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
Yeah, wow... I was surprised he didn't offer it to Libermann."A person cannot approach the divine by reaching beyond the human. To become human, is what this individual person, has been created for.” Martin BuberComment
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What I mean is that Clinton was very wuzzy about boots on the ground. He had no problems with killing brown people, but as soon as there was a single dead American, he pulled out. Thus the cruice missiles.Originally posted by PLATO
Not a chance.
The American objection has never been to the boots on the ground...it has been to the stupid way they have been used. Rummy has to bear the responsibility there.
Oh...and Clinton's "Cruise missle" strategy just worked oh so well to.
So it will be interesting to see if a new strategy means more boots on the ground or less. I would support more boots, but I believe it's too late, as the damage to the "hearts and minds" is already done. That train went several years ago.So get your Naomi Klein books and move it or I'll seriously bash your faces in! - Supercitizen to stupid students
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