Hamas chief: Truce with Israel is over

[Kuciwalker]

Kuci, listen, you better shut the **** up with your trolling. I'm seriously getting pissed off soon.

And do what, stab me in the face over the internet?

[Pekka]

?? Nah, you're not worth of any response. Good luck with your life, hit us up again when you have grown up.

[DaShi]

Was Kuci always this bad, and I just didn't notice, or is it something that's come up recently?

[Kuciwalker]

I used to eschew silly games

[Kuciwalker]

And honestly, it's not my fault Pekka's such an easy mark.

[Pekka]

Well I'm not easy usually but I put too much effort to just be trolled.

I expected at least few media studies on European media in relation to reporting on the issue of Israel and Palestine and then pre-emptive strike on the possible critics of the source but you have nothing, except populist claims. I'm not saying you should go find media studies, that would be a painful task, I'm saying, I put too much effort to be just trolled l ike that.

[Pekka]

And I got heated up even when I knew you were trolling after the flag comment.

But there are lots of people who might follow that thinking pattern so yeah. That's the way it goes.

[Flip McWho]

Isn't Hamas a government?

Already answered. Yes.

Does that make them not a terrorist organisation?

[Kuciwalker]

Apparently not.

[LordShiva]

Originally posted by Kuciwalker
OK, if there's no spin then I guess Europeans still are latent anti-semites, and read from all the unbiased stories that Israel is the evil of the two.

But Palestinians are semites too

[Kuciwalker]

Oh be quiet we all know India's got nothing culture-wise.

[dannubis]

Originally posted by lord of the mark



First of all, MY government is located in Washington DC, and is currently adapting to Tuesdays election. Lets get THAT straight right off. (youd think a US flag, a Virginia address, and sig quote from Hilary Clinton would have made that clear, but I guess not)

Second, I simply dont accept that when one side is trying to make peace, and the other is not, and one side is following the laws of war, and other is committing acts of terrorism, the side defending itself against terrorism has an obligation to only act until the civilian casualties are equal. How many Israelis, do you suppose would have died if Israel did NOT act decisively? Maybe alot more than have done so. Do you count palestinians killed by Hamas? "Informers" and "Collaborators" murdered after trial by kangaroo courts? Hamas vs Fatah violence? Does Israel have to keep seperate accounts for Hamas, Islamic Jihad, Al Aqsa Martyrs Brigade? What you propose is absurd.

Israel should certainly attempt to minimize civilian casualties as it pursues terrorists, for the sake of human life and for its own best interests. But it shouldnt have a "bag limit" based on the number of civilian Israelis killed. This isnt about revenge, and killing to get even, its about actions taken to prevent future terrorist acts.

First of all, I know you are living in the US. I got carried away in the argument. Sorry for making that mistake. I am sure you defending each and every **** up of the IDF or the Israeli governement has nothing to do with it.

Secondly, for a lot of Israeli politicians it is all about revenge. It gets them their votes. Just as the Palsetinian leadership builds its reputation on revenge. No more no less.

"How many Israelis, do you suppose would have died if Israel did NOT act decisively?"

Do you even stop to think on what you are actually implying here?

[Elok]

TBH, LOTM, your question does sort of presuppose that Israeli counterstrikes actually have some sort of effect on Hamas's willingness/ability to murder Jews. Don't they attack Israel's civilians at a more or less constant rate regardless of what happens? That being so, it would seem Israel's attacks are done entirely for psychological satisfaction...

[Drake Tungsten]

Kuci

[Sirotnikov]

Originally posted by Flip McWho
Siro,

People expect a government to be act differently than a terrorist organisation, otherwise, what's the moral difference?

I don't recall anyone blaming Israel of targetting the people who died.

Some technical error caused 2 shells, out of a barrage of 20 to miss their destination by some 400 meters.