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Originally posted by Asher
And I wouldn't call the Xbox library pitifully shallow
And I wouldn't call the Xbox library pitifully shallow
edit: though they were very good games.
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That's because you're a rabid fanboy. The rest of us recognize that there were only a few good games for the Xbox ever.
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All of which are on PC, or going to be. And arguably better on PC.Originally posted by nostromo
Corrected. The Xbox was a lot better than the PS2 for western RPGs, with titles such as Morrowind, KOTOR, KOTOR 2 and Jade Empire.Comment
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*raises hand*Originally posted by Oncle Boris
QFT. Who wants to play a Japanese RPG?
Ever since I played Tales of Symphonia I've been hoping we'll get a good number of them for the Wii.Comment
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I have to disagree with DD. Zelda is Action-Adventure.Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
Is Zelda considered an RPG?Comment
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The only one that qualifies is Oblivion (and maybe Jade Empire) - and honestly, that game wasn't that good. It had some good points that were obscured by critical weaknesses, like the combat system. Neither KOTOR 1 nor 2 are very graphically demanding.Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
When the newest graphic cards + CPU upgrades may cost you similar to a console (and you may not be able to hook up your computer to your HDTV), you may simply go for console instead
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Which is, again, odd as the Xbox had the highest software attach rate of the last generation. This is curiously odd for a game with only a few good games.Originally posted by Kuciwalker
That's because you're a rabid fanboy. The rest of us recognize that there were only a few good games for the Xbox ever.
Perhaps the fact is while you consider awful turds like Super Mario Sunshine a good game, the public at large does not agree."The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "Comment
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KOTOR2 was buggy as hell on the PC. I couldn't get it to run very well.Originally posted by Kuciwalker
The only one that qualifies is Oblivion (and maybe Jade Empire) - and honestly, that game wasn't that good. It had some good points that were obscured by critical weaknesses, like the combat system. Neither KOTOR 1 nor 2 are very graphically demanding."The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
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KOTOR2 was buggy as hell on the Xbox. It was just ridiculously rushed.Comment
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I rented it and played it fine without any noticeable bugs...
Meanwhile the sound kept crackling and fading out on the PC."The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
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Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui And a lot of people do like to get a hyped game when it comes out.
I would assume that those folks are less interested in the "library" which I always thought referred to games that are already out. Most of which wont need the latest graphics card to run. (Ok, maybe Oblivion, i havent really followed that)"A person cannot approach the divine by reaching beyond the human. To become human, is what this individual person, has been created for.” Martin BuberComment
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Originally posted by Asher
Which is, again, odd as the Xbox had the highest software attach rate of the last generation. This is curiously odd for a game with only a few good games.
Perhaps the fact is while you consider awful turds like Super Mario Sunshine a good game, the public at large does not agree.
The public at large loves Japanese RPGs, and loves playstation (more PS2s installed than Xbox and Xbox 360 combined, at this point, right?) Before you said the publics taste is often bad, and now youre invoking the the publics behavior as evidence of quality?"A person cannot approach the divine by reaching beyond the human. To become human, is what this individual person, has been created for.” Martin BuberComment
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It's hit and miss, obviously.Originally posted by lord of the mark
The public at large loves Japanese RPGs, and loves playstation (more PS2s installed than Xbox and Xbox 360 combined, at this point, right?) Before you said the publics taste is often bad, and now youre invoking the the publics behavior as evidence of quality?
The Gamecube's sales sucked because the console sucked. There were few games, and the games generally sucked.
The Xbox had lots of great games -- and most of the games also available on the PC were more enjoyable on the Xbox.
The JRPG popularity is merely due to ignorant masses.
(Of course it all comes down to the tastes of gamers, but to say the Xbox had a shallow library in comparison to other consoles when it sold the most software per console shows most people don't agree -- simple as that)
As far as I'm concerned, and coincidentally as far as sales are concerned, the Gamecube had the most shallow game catalog by far."The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
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Im not sure why attachment rate shows depth of library. Xbox simply didnt have as many sales as PS2, and it could be that they were all interested in the more homogeneous Xbox library. IE most Xbox buyers probably liked most Xbox games, while SOME PS2 buyers were JRPG fans who wouldnt touch a Madden game, and some were sports fans who wouldnt touch an RPG, etc, etc.Originally posted by Asher
It's hit and miss, obviously.
The Gamecube's sales sucked because the console sucked. There were few games, and the games generally sucked.
The Xbox had lots of great games -- and most of the games also available on the PC were more enjoyable on the Xbox.
The JRPG popularity is merely due to ignorant masses.
(Of course it all comes down to the tastes of gamers, but to say the Xbox had a shallow library in comparison to other consoles when it sold the most software per console shows most people don't agree -- simple as that)
As far as I'm concerned, and coincidentally as far as sales are concerned, the Gamecube had the most shallow game catalog by far.
I mean the average PC gamer probably doesnt buy anymore games per year than the avg PS2 or Xbox player. Would that lead you to say that the PC game library is shallower than the console libraries?"A person cannot approach the divine by reaching beyond the human. To become human, is what this individual person, has been created for.” Martin BuberComment
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The PC comparisons are screwy because of rampant piracy.
The Gamecube's depth sucked because:
1) MARIOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
2) ZELDAAAAAAAAAAA
3) METROIDDDDDDDDD
4) ^^ variations thereof ad naseum"The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "Comment
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Most people look at the library to see the number and quality of games that WILL come out in the future. The market for older games is far smaller than newer ones. A library is good for make future prediction.Originally posted by lord of the mark
I would assume that those folks are less interested in the "library" which I always thought referred to games that are already out. Most of which wont need the latest graphics card to run. (Ok, maybe Oblivion, i havent really followed that)“I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
- John 13:34-35 (NRSV)Comment
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