A 1935 US Plan for Invasion of Canada

[Arrian]

maybe when the space lizards land.

Clearly. When the space lizards get involved, all bets are off.

-Arrian

[KrazyHorse]

some of the US defenders are probably also your ancestors

Probably not

My French roots in NA go back 400 years, but the Scottish/Irish parts only go back 150 years.

[KrazyHorse]

The only possibility I can think of is that one of my Iroquois ancestors was defending the WH...

[Drake Tungsten]

When the space lizards get involved, all bets are off.

The space lizards are already involved...

Apparently, this DNA infiltration is known within the inner circles of the British royal family as the "family disease". They are actually in fear of it because they know that once it is activated they will be taken over. But of course they are caught in a world of constant ritual and ceremony designed specifically to activate their possession. It is catch 22. Without the ritual they cannot be the royal family, but with the ritual they are activated and possessed. The thought and emotional processes of the UK's Queen Mother are not those of Elizabeth Bowes-Lyon, the little girl officially born into that body 101 years ago. They are controlled by the reptilian entity or entities, which possessed her after the hybrid DNA activation.

http://www.rense.com/general12/ritd.htm

[lord of the mark]

Originally posted by KrazyHorse

some of the US defenders are probably also your ancestors

Probably not

My French roots in NA go back 400 years, but the Scottish/Irish parts only go back 150 years.

I meant "y'all's ancestors.

[Lonestar]

The Straight Dope already covered this.

Incidently....

The United States wasn't the only country preparing for war in North America after the First World War. There is no evidence Britain continued to plan for war with the U.S. after the war (perhaps because they were freer to plan for war with more likely enemies). But in 1921 Canada's Director of Military Operations and Intelligence, Col. J. Sutherland-Brown, produced a remarkable document called "Defence Scheme Number 1" to deal with possible war with the U.S. As in the U.S., isolationism ran high in Canada and it was politically difficult to plan for war in Europe. "Defence Scheme Number 3" did eventually deal with that scenario, but not until a decade later. ("Defence Scheme Number 2" dealt with war against Japan.) DS1, as the name implies, was primarily a defensive plan, but it included invasions of the U.S. in the first days of war as a means of gaining time until troops from elsewhere in the Empire could arrive. These invasions would have been aimed at Albany, Minneapolis, Seattle, and other northern cities, to be followed by a slow withdrawal and destruction of bridges and railroads. The plan was withdrawn in 1929, about the same time the finishing touches were being put on War Plan Red. There is no evidence that U.S. and Canadian planners knew of each other's work.

Canadian Invasion!

[Kidlicious]

Why would the US have to invade Canada? They're already capitalist.

[lord of the mark]

Originally posted by Lonestar
The Straight Dope already covered this.

Incidently....



Canadian Invasion!

Yup, those were the color plans I was thinking of, though I didnt know that there was not a "war plan black" - stupid isolationism!

The final plan implemented, in cooperation with UK, was IIRC Rainbow 5, which integrated warplan Orange with the needs for war in europe. Note well, some conspiracy theorists have used the existence of war plan Orange to base a claim that they US was conspiring to attack Japan.


"Much of the Army's work on Red was done in the mid-1920s. It evidently didn't attract much attention from the Navy until about 1930, because the admirals were preoccupied with Orange before that. They would be preoccupied with Orange again after that too; the period around 1930 was a brief respite from work on Orange, which was largely finished but would soon need to be updated.

Other color plans included "White" (domestic uprising), "Green" (war with Mexico), "Gray" (war with any one of the Caribbean republics), and "Purple" (war in Central America). One scenario pitted the U.S. against the combined forces of France (Gold), Canada, and Britain. Another (Red-Orange) pitted the U.S. against a combination of Japan and Britain. This last had more military justification before 1924, when the Anglo-Japanese Treaty was still in force. This treaty would have required Britain to join a war between the U.S. and Japan, but only if another great power (such as France or Russia) also declared war on Japan.

For political reasons, "Black" (war with Germany) was not highly developed at all. When word of planning for a war with Germany was leaked to the press in 1927, the isolationist public was outraged and the project was shelved. This echoed the situation in 1916 when President Wilson threatened to fire the entire general staff if he learned they were planning for war with Germany. (This was an election year when Wilson's slogan was, "He kept us out of war.") Serious planning for war with Germany was not done until 1939 when work began on the five "Rainbow" plans. These dealt with simultaneous threats from both Atlantic and Pacific--in other words, war with the Axis countries. By that time the threat was too great to ignore, even though public sentiment was still strongly isolationist."

[lord of the mark]

wiki


During the 1920s, the United States Army developed a number of Color-coded War Plans to outline potential U.S. strategies for a variety of hypothetical war scenarios. All of these plans were officially withdrawn in 1939, in favor of five Rainbow Plans developed to meet the threat of a two ocean war against multiple Axis Powers.

The best-known of these plans (although they were secret at the time) is probably War Plan Orange, a plan for war with Japan, which formed some of the basis for the actual campaign against Japan in World War II which included the huge economic blockade from mainland China.

War Plan Red, a more hypothetical plan for war against Britain and Canada, caused a stir in American-Canadian relations when declassified in 1974. A related plan was War Plan Crimson, which envisioned a limited war with the British Empire concentrating on an invasion of Canada. In this color scheme, the UK was "Red," Canada "Crimson," India "Ruby," and Australia/New Zealand were "Scarlet." Though the possibility of a war between the United States and Great Britain diminished greatly after World War I, the plan was kept updated as late as the 1930s. (There was concern in Washington that if Britain fell to the Axis during World War II, American forces would have to occupy Canada.)

There were other color-coded plans developed during this period:

War Plan White dealt with a domestic uprising in the US, and later evolved to Operation Garden Plot, the general US military plan for civil disturbances and peaceful protests. Parts of War Plan White were used to deal with the Bonus Expeditionary Force in 1932. Communist insurgents were considered the most likely threat by the authors of War Plan White.
War Plan Gray dealt with invading a Caribbean republic.
War Plan Purple dealt with invading a Central American republic, or possibly with Russia (There may have been two different Purples).
War Plan Green involved war with Mexico or what was known as "Mexican Domestic Intervention" in order to defeat rebel forces and establish a pro-American government. War Plan Green was officially canceled in 1946.
War Plan Gold was a plan for war with France and French Caribbean possessions.
War Plan Black was a plan for war with Germany. The best-known version of Black was conceived as a contingency plan during World War I in case France fell and the Germans attempted to seize French possessions in the Caribbean, or launch an attack on the eastern seaboard.
War Plan Indigo involved an invasion of Iceland. In 1941, while Denmark was under German occupation, the US actually did occupy Iceland, relieving British units during the Battle of the Atlantic.
War Plan Brown dealt with an uprising in the Philippines.
War Plan Yellow dealt with war in China - specifically, the defense of Beijing and relief of Shanghai during the Second Sino-Japanese War.
War Plan Olive was for war with Spain.
War Plan Silver was for war with Italy.
War Plan Emerald was for intervention in Ireland in conjunction with War Plan Red.
War Plan Tan was for intervention in Cuba.

[lord of the mark]

Rainbow 5

http://www.ibiblio.org/pha/pha/misc/rainbow5.html

[notyoueither]

Originally posted by Spec
But those news were probably not shown in Alberta cuz you red-necks need to beleive your superior in oil, because, admit it, that's all you guys have.

Spec.

Don't be silly.

We also have some bemused cattle.

[Spec]

Spec.

[Main_Brain]

In 1934, War Plan Red was amended
to authorize the immediate first use of poison gas against
Canadians and to use strategic bombing to destroy Halifax
if it could not be captured.

WTF?

[Odin]

[EU2]Invade? they are already our vassals and the non-French provinces will be converting from Anglo-Saxon to Yankee culture shortly...[/EU2]



Oh, and I'm suprised no one has brought up the War of 1812 yet.

[Victor Galis]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
Who would have thought this thread would turn into an argument over provinces in Canada?

What Canadian debate doesn't? :P

Hydro has been the future for 50 years, and Oil has been running out for 50 years.

And 50 years from now, it'll actually be true

Who's talking about an invasion? I'd hope that they'd get the point and surrender once we bombed them back into the Stone Age...

That worked so well for Hitler, didn't it?