nBSG Season opening roundup(Spoilers, Damnit)

[Locutus]

Originally posted by Kassiopeia
Locutus, that video is "no longer available"

Then I guess you'll have to make do with the original (better quality anyway but the site takes ages to load most of the time): http://www.scifi.com/battlestar/vide...ures&vid=35344

[Verto]

I missed the new episode! Now I have to wait until 10 to watch the encore or whatever you want to call it.

[GePap]

While the episode as always was good, the beginning left me dry:

Spoiler:

How do three resistance gunners take out five or six centurions? IN fact, we don;t even see the centurions go down, and just how long was Cally running right in front? That scene was not well played.

Besides that, most of the show was pretty good. As always Cavil was fun, and D'eana is now all about visions, nice.

As for predictions:

Spoiler:

From the "next week" bit, we know Lee disobeyed Adama, and good, because the Galactica alone would have gotten itself smashed. My guess, this is the last we see of the Pegasus, and we will return to a one Battlestart fleet, as Lee sacrifices the Pegasus to make sure the rest of the fleet and Galactica get away.

[Kassiopeia]

Holy frakking crap, what an episode. They're really building up for the second part.

The execution scene was made horribly, IMHO, as far as BSG's standards go.

Spoiler:

Where were the leafs and bushes Cally was running through last week? Terrible continuity, really jarring. She wasn't running on a quarry last week, but in a forest or something.

And GePap already mentioned the oddity that a bunch of resistance guys (apparently without explosive rounds to boot) could take down a bunch of centurion and the NCP men who didn't flee.

It felt like the writers just had to slap some tension together into the scene without actually killing someone important, and ended up jumping through hoops to accomplish that, destroying suspension of disbelief. I should listen to the podcast and see if they had scheduling problems or something that forced them to use the footage they had instead of refilming the scenes to make them fit together better.

[Whoha]

In keeping with the two previous posters with spoiler in a spoiler marked thread:

Spoiler:

That seemed like there were a lot of shooters on the resistance side, and they'd be bound to have some ammunition capable of taking down centurions, but they really did do a poor job with continuity.

the cylons can throw away raiders all day long against two battlestars, but a handful of centurions,raiders,etc are a strain to replace. also this convoy only has NCP personnel guarding it, no air units nearby, the orbiting baseships weren't monitoring the situation,etc. why didn't they nuke/plaster the area when it became clear what happened? You'd almost think the cylons wanted the resistance to win this one.

I further don't want to see baltar the hapless dupe who is sliding into a suicidal depression, make him baltar the traitor or baltar the hero of the resistance. make him start pushing the cylons back either way.

[Imran Siddiqui]

Speaking of Baltar, I loved the line by Caprica Six of something like what she had to do to be with him. Seemed like a good time for Baltar to counter with the fact that he became the traitor to the human race to be with her.

[Verto]

Yeah, a little disappointing, but overall I liked it.

[Kassiopeia]

Originally posted by Whoha
In keeping with the two previous posters with spoiler in a spoiler marked thread:

D'oh! I do HATE finding out anything about the next episode, especially through the previews, so maybe we should only spoiler-mark parts in the previews?

Perhaps the Cylons really are strained for resources, maybe they are busy somewhere else? Like say a civil war?

[Whoha]

Spoiler:

no we should continue to force people to highlight text that they want to read.

[One_more_turn]

How much has the show revealed about Cylon's own political and economic structure?

[Unspeakable Horror]

Originally posted by Whoha

Spoiler:

no we should continue to force people to highlight text that they want to read.

Spoiler:

I agree

[GePap]

Originally posted by One_more_turn
How much has the show revealed about Cylon's own political and economic structure?

NOthing about their economics.

As for their politics, they are big on concensus decisions, and pretty ideologically driven, though the current situation in the show came about because of a split in thier notions of how to treat humanity. Beyond that, there is little sense about what kind of government there is, and the decisions all seem to be made by the Humanoid cylon models. Nothing has been shown of sentient but nonhumanoid cylons.

[Imran Siddiqui]

I think there seems to be a clear heirarchy with the non-humanoid cyclons as a lower class to the humanoid decision makers.

[GePap]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
I think there seems to be a clear heirarchy with the non-humanoid cyclons as a lower class to the humanoid decision makers.

Which I find problematic, since it was obviously non-humanoid Cylons who decided to engineer and create the humanoid models. The Centurions are not even sentient as far as has been shown, and the fighters seem to have the brain power of smart animals, not sentient, but abale to learn and change thier behavior accordingly, and they also are downloaded.

But where are the sentient non-humanoid models that began the original rebellion?

[Imran Siddiqui]

Originally posted by GePap
Which I find problematic, since it was obviously non-humanoid Cylons who decided to engineer and create the humanoid models. The Centurions are not even sentient as far as has been shown, and the fighters seem to have the brain power of smart animals, not sentient, but abale to learn and change thier behavior accordingly, and they also are downloaded.

But where are the sentient non-humanoid models that began the original rebellion?

That is an interesting question. Hopefully it gets resolved. Maybe it'll be a mystery they keep until the final season.