Quit Strasbourg

[Provost Harrison]

It is a bit silly. Why not move it, to, let's say, London

Yeah, they should just stick it all in one place, anything other is silly...

[atawa]

Originally posted by Drogue

No, the UN is an organisation, not an area. It's like saying the capital of Microsoft is Seattle. A capital tends to be of any area that has it's own government, and tends to be where that government sits. Whether that area is a county, state, region or country doesn't really matter.

The EU is an organisation, not a state/country like entity. Its mainly a bunch of countries who coöperate on different levels, some higher then others.

Microsoft is a company.

[Drogue]

Originally posted by atawa
The EU is an organisation, not a state/country like entity. Its mainly a bunch of countries who coöperate on different levels, some higher then others.

No it's not just an organisation. The EU is an area. You say "France is inside the EU", or "Switzerland is outside it". The EU is an area that has it's own executive, legislative and judiciary branches of government. You don't need to be a federal state to have a capital.

[TCO]

Ok, Brussels is the capital of NATO then.

[atawa]

Originally posted by Drogue

No it's not just an organisation. The EU is an area. You say "France is inside the EU", or "Switzerland is outside it". The EU is an area that has it's own executive, legislative and judiciary branches of government.

You mean those useless people in Brussels and sometimes Strassbourg that write essays about the definition of a banana?
They find themselves extremely important but have no real power whatsoever.
The EU as an entity has no real goverment, everything of any importance is dealt with by ministers etc

[Drogue]

Originally posted by TCO
Ok, Brussels is the capital of NATO then.

NATO isn't an area. North Atlantic Treaty Organisation. NATO is just an organisation, not a geographical area.

You mean those useless people in Brussels and sometimes Strassbourg that write essays about the definition of a banana?
They find themselves extremely important but have no real power whatsoever.
The EU as an entity has no real goverment, everything of any importance is dealt with by ministers etc

That is absolutely not true. I spent part of the summer working on the new MiFID directive, which will have a *huge* effect on the City of London and changes the way much of our finance industry works. The EU deals with a lot of important issues that superceed national law. But whether or not they have real power isn't the issue. The fact that they have a government that governs over the region that is the EU makes where the parliament sits a capital city. The only definition I can find is:

A town or city that is the official seat of government in a political entity, such as a state or region

The EU Commission and Parliament is the official government of the EU, a political region.

[Terra Nullius]

The EU is a Dilbert space.

[Heresson]

we should let Elbonia in.

[atawa]

Originally posted by Drogue
But whether or not they have real power isn't the issue. The fact that they have a government that governs over the region that is the EU makes where the parliament sits a capital city. The only definition I can find is:

This very much is the issue, in order to have any form of government you need the power to implement your ideas, witch the EU parliament hasnt.

The EU Commission and Parliament is the official government of the EU, a political region.

Witch has no basic power over individual memberstates, making it as effective as the UN general asembly.

[Dinner]

Originally posted by Drogue

You don't have to be a country to have a capital. Sacramento is the capital of California, which isn't a country.

But we used to be. Only for 6 months though and then we joined the US.

[Traianvs]

Originally posted by atawa


You mean those useless people in Brussels and sometimes Strassbourg that write essays about the definition of a banana?
They find themselves extremely important but have no real power whatsoever.
The EU as an entity has no real goverment, everything of any importance is dealt with by ministers etc

Not really, as far as I heard most decisions are made by EU officials. Most people simply don't realize this. Then again, most people are potty anyway when politics are concerned

[TCO]

EU is not an area. It is a treaty organization also. If EU can have a capital, so can NATO.

[Colonâ„¢]

The EU is a very ambigious animal. Impossible to classify into anything that has predated it.

[TCO]

How about if the whole continent (I mean peninsula) just started speaking English. You all know it so well already. Could get rid of minor dialects like Dutch...I mean Flemish...err I guess it's just Dutch anyhow...

[Colonâ„¢]

That's a pretty lame troll. I'd expect better from you.