Wtf is wrong with canadians columnist

[CrONoS]

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[notyoueither]

The piece you posted and linked to was written by Jan Wong.

WTH is Barbara Kay, and what does she have to do with it?

[KrazyHorse]

Originally posted by nostromo


How, exactly, does it treat you like a second-class citizen?

[CrONoS]

@Notyou:
The rise of Quebecistan
Written by Barbara Kay

Barbara Kay is a columnist at Canada’s National Post newspaper. Her column appears here at ProudToBeCanadian.ca weekly, with Barbara Kay’s express permission.

http://www.proudtobecanadian.ca/columnists/index/writergroup/C12/

[KrazyHorse]

Originally posted by cronos_qc
But hey,you lived in a place where there was 6 000 000millions french speaking people around you; who are not sharing the same roots than you, who have been conquered 300years ago, and you expect what....
that you can feel at your home?

Yeah, I do expect that I should feel at home.

My mother's family is Quebec french from Champlain's time. My father's family is Irish and Scottish and has been in Quebec for a hundred and fifty years. My family has never lived anywhere in Canada outside Quebec.

*******.

[KrazyHorse]

Boo ****ing hoo. Imperial France lost a war 250 years ago and you're still whining about it. Canada treats its French citizens better than Quebec treats its English citizens, and has since well before you or I was born.

[CrONoS]

@KH

So why, in your point of view, there is animosity and bigotry towards english speaking people?(From french speaking)

[CrONoS]

Originally posted by KrazyHorse
Boo ****ing hoo. Imperial France lost a war 250 years ago and you're still whining about it. Canada treats its French citizens better than Quebec treats its English citizens, and has since well before you or I was born.

No, I only wanted to point, that our history, is a little different than yours.

[CrONoS]

Originally posted by notyoueither
The piece you posted and linked to was written by Jan Wong.

WTH is Barbara Kay, and what does she have to do with it?

There is no links, it was my mistake, I read the bio of Barbara Kay and many of his article this evening(as long with the one from Wong). And I mixed Wong and Kay.

[KrazyHorse]

Originally posted by cronos_qc
@KH

So why, in your point of view, there is animosity and bigotry towards english speaking people?(From french speacking)

Victimisation complex. For a long time in Quebec the power structure was mainly English and English-educated French. This began changing 45 years ago. Nowadays the English in Quebec is there because of the preponderance of English in the rest of North America, not because of 200 years of oppression or whatever. But instead of recognising that, there's still a very ugly undercurrent of hatred toward the English in French Quebec.

Don't worry, though. The policies are working. In 50 years there will be all of 12 Anglos left in Quebec (the rest having moved to Toronto). They'll be imprisoned in a gated community in Westmount and the rest of the province will be allowed to monitor their every movement on CCTV to ensure that they aren't subverting the proper place of the French language in Quebec.

[Victor Galis]

Having returned to Montreal after 14 years of absence, I can really honestly say that I never remembered the city being so... French before, and I don't mean that in a good way.

[Nostromo]

But instead of recognising that, there's still a very ugly undercurrent of hatred toward the English in French Quebec.

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[Nostromo]

Having returned to Montreal after 14 years of absence, I can really honestly say that I never remembered the city being so... French before, and I don't mean that in a good way.

WTF do you mean? I thought romanians were francophiles.

[CrONoS]

@KH
Can you speak french?

If yes, I find it hard to believe that you were really alienated. I mean, you had a french mother, one side of your family was "pure laine" (if I do understand that your mother side, were actually french speaking). You surely had french friends....

What I want to point; I think it's normal that you felt a stranger, if you used to go to an english school, speak mainly english, into a french province.

My mother came from Cochrane, (north of Ontario), she was a french canadian. She did his first class in french, but there was no french high school, she dropped school and began to work for his father.

She didn't had english friends and she moved to Abitibi, as soon as she married my father. But I think it's normal, that you dont feel as your home, somewhere who doesn't have the same language and the same roots.(except for our common history as a part of Canada).

I understand the grief of english quebecers for some laws that has been adopted from our government; mainly the one about the school.

And I do think, 30-20 years ago, we were needed this laws. And maybe now, we can think about modifying some linguistic law and make it less rigid.

[Asher]

The most pathetic thing about Quebec & France is their insecurity/persecution complex.