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  • #46
    I think

    you are missing the subtle dig that your French isn't real French.
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    • #47
      still doesn't make sense, especially with the comment about the Bloc.
      In Soviet Russia, Fake borises YOU.

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      • #48
        you are missing the subtle dig that your French isn't real French.
        I didn't miss it and it wasn't that subtle. And when I watch French TV, I can't help but agree with him up to a certain point. But you don't have to speak with our accent. There are a lot of French and people from northern Africa living here who keep their accent.
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        • #49
          Originally posted by nostromo


          indeed. Let me get this straight. You don't want to have anything to do with us quebecers, you don't want to bother to learn french, you long for the good old days when you had the anglos on one side of town and francos on the other, yet you're afraid of forgeting your french completely. And you blame the BQ for this sad state of affairs, a political Party without any real power to influence anything?

          I suspect that you're suffering from culture shock. Where were you all these years, btw?
          Well, the success of the BQ in fighting the English language is triggering a powerful backlash in me. To speak French in this part of town I feel is to give in to the BQ and their dream of destroying the Quebec econo... er... independence, or sovereignty or whatever they're calling it these days.

          To be fair, their last referendum cost my family tens of thousands in the form of lost property value on a house in Hampstead.

          I didn't miss it and it wasn't that subtle. And when I watch French TV, I can't help but agree with him up to a certain point. But you don't have to speak with our accent. There are a lot of French and people from northern Africa living here who keep their accent.
          I don't retain any accent very long. If I speak to people that speak in a certain way, I lose my old accent fast. I used to have a Boston accent. I used to have a Quebeqois accent. Now I have neither.

          The real trouble is when speaking with a real French accent, Quebeqois people can understand me, but I can't always understand their responses. It's easier to just pretend not to speak any French.
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          • #50
            Well, the success of the BQ in fighting the English language is triggering a powerful backlash in me. To speak French in this part of town I feel is to give in to the BQ and their dream of destroying the Quebec econo... er... independence, or sovereignty or whatever they're calling it these days.

            To be fair, their last referendum cost my family tens of thousands in the form of lost property value on a house in Hampstead.
            You're confusing the BQ and the PQ.

            Try to understand our point of view. The point of the linguistic laws wasn't to fight english : they're measures implemented to give the french language and french culture a fighting chance in Canada and North America.

            Now, we can discuss whether these measures are necessary or sufficient or if they really work. If they are sufficient and if they work, its an argument in favor of federalism: it means that us quebecers can thrive while remaining in Canada.

            Others will claim that they're clearly not sufficient. Even with those measures, we'll wither and be assimilated in the long run. For them, the only solution is independance.
            Last edited by Nostromo; September 18, 2006, 23:45.
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            • #51
              Originally posted by LordShiva
              Silly Canadians, allowing the existence of just two official linguistic groups to cause problems

              At least you're not Belgians
              Yes, but these are English and French.

              Last time that was tried it resulted in a 100 Years War.

              Please be patient.
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              • #52

                To be fair, their last referendum cost my family tens of thousands in the form of lost property value on a house in Hampstead.


                Boo hoo hoo! money lost because the anglos somehow were dumb enough to think that an independent quebec would be waiting for them with concentration camps. Ph3@7 Drummondschwitz man!!!
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                • #53
                  Originally posted by nostromo


                  You're confusing the BQ and the PQ.
                  Entirely possible.

                  Try to understand our point of view. The point of the linguistic laws wasn't to fight english : they're measures implemented to give the french language and french culture a fighting chance in Canada and North America.
                  So forcing immigrants who only speak English, live in an English-speaking neighborhood to go to a French language school fits this description how?

                  Boo hoo hoo! money lost because the anglos somehow were dumb enough to think that an independent quebec would be waiting for them with concentration camps. Ph3@7 Drummondschwitz man!!!
                  Or because they thought other Anglos would leave and the economy would suffer... oh wait... think that happened just at the hint of a referendum.
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                  • #54
                    Quebec is to Canada as France is to Europe.

                    Oh... wait...
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                    • #55
                      Why dont they let French Canada be free?
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                      • #56
                        Nothing would make me happier.
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                        • #57
                          The rest of canada would join the USA, and then democrats would be able to win elections again
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                          • #58
                            So forcing immigrants who only speak English, live in an English-speaking neighborhood to go to a French language school fits this description how?
                            Its demographics. If we don't do anything, the franco population will decline and eventually become a minority. We would become like the "francophones" in Manitoba or Louisiana. Now, we're not making babies. What else can we do? One thing we can do is control immigration, like letting in more francophone immigrants, or by asking allophones to go in french schools rather than english schools.

                            Now, we can discuss about the specifics of the measures taken, like the one you allude to, but measures such as these are necessary.
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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by Brachy-Pride
                              The rest of canada would join the USA, and then democrats would be able to win elections again
                              But at what cost?!

                              Now, we can discuss about the specifics of the measures taken, like the one you allude to, but measures such as these are necessary.
                              There is no way we will ever agree on this point. Forcible assimilation for the purpose of maintaining one's numbers is distasteful at best.
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                              • #60
                                evolution in action

                                things become extinct for a reason
                                “It is no use trying to 'see through' first principles. If you see through everything, then everything is transparent. But a wholly transparent world is an invisible world. To 'see through' all things is the same as not to see.”

                                ― C.S. Lewis, The Abolition of Man

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