Is Jesus Lord?

[OzzyKP]

Originally posted by Ben Kenobi
I still have so much to learn compared to those who have spent their entire lives as a Catholic.

Just being Catholic doesn't necessarily mean anything. I've probably learned more about my faith from Wikipedia than from 25 years of going to church, heh.

[Provost Harrison]

Originally posted by Kidicious
You can't learn much in an hour, unless you're very smart.

I managed it with the underlying principles of analytical chemistry. But then again, I'm just very smart

[Provost Harrison]

Originally posted by lord of the mark


I havent heard about eternal damnation in my shul since weve gone. I dont hear about it at Orthodox shuls either. Although from a recent sermon, I think my rabbi thinks we'll be subject to eternal damnation if we vote AGAINST gay marriage

You've never experienced any of the Catholic Sunday schools in Hull circa 1980s

[Jon Miller]

Originally posted by Provost Harrison


She is not at an age where she can make a reasonable decision without being swayed by these horror stories of eternal damnation. Wait until she gets to her teens before letting her decide and spare any form of indoctrination. Let her be a kid.

Besides, my 'option' was not taking any option, after all. You seem to forget, I am not religious, and my thoughts are not equivalent to your religion, no matter how you find that impossible to conceive...

lots of Christian churches don't have 'eternal damnation' as part of their retoric.

JM

[Provost Harrison]

It's implied. What do these 'churches' suggest happen to those infernal homosexuals?

[Jon Miller]

Some don't think that homosexuality is evil. Others think that those who don't accept Jesus Christ just cease to exist on death.

Still others (this might be a bit less mainstream) think that God keeps trying to save people until they are saved.. even after death (reincarnation for example).

There are lots of beleifs..

Jon Miller

[Provost Harrison]

Self-service Christianity...I like it...pick and choose what you like the look of.

So what is this divine truth then? What does God want?

[Jon Miller]

No dude.. there is different interpretations..

JM

[Sarxis]

Originally posted by Jon Miller
There are lots of beleifs..

.. but there is only one Truth.

Jesus is Lord, for all things were created through Him, and for Him. All that is power and authority and wisdom His Father, the One true God, has given over to Jesus. The Son is the only one who knows God truly, because He comes from the Father, and has always existed with the Father. But when Jesus appears to us, He is a Son, in a bodily form, yet with the fullness of God's nature invested in Him.

The last few chapters of the book of John explains a lot of what God and Jesus' relationship is (and the nature of their Spirit too). Confusing? Not in the basics, but yes, it is probably the deepest of all mysteries.

I highly recommend reading those last couple chapters of John (the part just before Jesus is betrayed and crucified). Also, back in Genesis, compare with what Pharoah says to Joseph when he makes him the virtual ruler of all Egypt.

[Provost Harrison]

See...

[quantum_mechani]

Originally posted by Japher
Yet not going to a church at all, of any type of religion, doesn't accomplish anything. Even if I taught her ABOUT religion she will never really KNOW what it IS.

I don't believe people can just be taught about a culture and then be able to decide if that is right for them or not. They have to live that culture.

I think I agree with you there. However, it does create a bit of a problem. If in order to truly understand a religion you have to be actually in it (i.e., believe it), you are already past the point where you are making a choice, and have in fact already chosen.

[Odin]

Originally posted by Sarxis


.. but there is only one Truth.

Yes, and you find it through science.


/me runs before he gets lynched by the religious Apolytoners

[Empress]

Actually, I"ve seen a lot of documentaries lately scientifically proving things from the Bible, even the plagues on the Egyptians by Moses.

[Elok]

Originally posted by Lorizael
Or you could just do what my parents did. They nominally identify with the religions of their parents but do little more than carry out the traditions in practice.

The result: A raving lunatic of a son who has invented his very own religion/spiritual path/philosophy and truly believes himself to be, in a routinely megalomaniacal way, the next prophet/messenger of humankind.

...

Does Laura know you spend so much time on here, George?

And PH, I never forget you're an atheist. But I do sometimes forget you're an irrational smeg, which is why I still talk to you.

[CrONoS]

@Odin
Whatever;
By definition Science only lead to fragmentation and division of knowledge, no Truth can be found in science only; you'll find truth that will lead to new question.

Since science have forgetten the Principle and only rest on Reason. Science can't find any wider range of sight(view) to embrace the multiplicity of point of view that science is creating, and will eternally creating. It's the very nature of science to be this way.

But yeah, Run You Foolish Scientism.