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  • Pakistan Officially Offers Bin Ladin Sanctuary

    Wow, just wow



    Bin Laden Gets a Pass from Pakistan
    September 05, 2006 5:41 PM

    Brian Ross and Gretchen Peters Report:

    Osama bin Laden, America's most wanted man, will not face capture in Pakistan if he agrees to lead a "peaceful life," Pakistani officials tell ABC News.

    The surprising announcement comes as Pakistani army officials announced they were pulling their troops out of the North Waziristan region as part of a "peace deal" with the Taliban.

    If he is in Pakistan, bin Laden "would not be taken into custody," Major General Shaukat Sultan Khan told ABC News in a telephone interview, "as long as one is being like a peaceful citizen."

    Bin Laden is believed to be hiding somewhere in the tribal areas of Pakistan, near the Afghanistan border, but U.S. officials say his precise location is unknown.

    In addition to the pullout of Pakistani troops, the "peace agreement" between Pakistan and the Taliban also provides for the Pakistani army to return captured Taliban weapons and prisoners.

    "What this means is that the Taliban and al Qaeda leadership have effectively carved out a sanctuary inside Pakistan," said ABC News consultant Richard Clarke, the former White House counter-terrorism director.

    The agreement was signed on the same day President Bush said the United States was working with its allies "to deny terrorists the enclaves they seek to establish in ungoverned areas across the world."

    The Pakistani Army had gone into Waziristan, under heavy pressure from the United States, but faced a series of humiliating defeats at the hands of the Taliban and al Qaeda fighters.

    "They're throwing the towel," said Alexis Debat, who is a Senior Fellow at the Nixon Center and an ABC News consultant. "They're giving al Qaeda and the Taliban a blank check and saying essentially make yourselves at home in the tribal areas," Debat said.

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    Pakistan signs pact with pro-Taliban militants
    Agencies


    Miranshah: Pro Taliban militants and the Pakistani government signed a peace deal on Tuesday, according to Pakistani negotiators.

    The militants said they would stop attacks in Pakistan and across the Afghan border on the condition that the Pakistani government stop air and ground operations in the Waziristan region and dismantle newly built checkposts.

    People arrested during military operations will also be released under the agreement and confiscated property, including weapons, would be returned.

    "The agreement will pave the way for permanent peace in the region," said Malik Shahzada, a member of a tribal council that has been overseeing negotiations with the rebels.

    The ceasefire was signed on a dusty football ground at a college in Miranshah, the main town of the North Waziristan region.

    Tribal council members, most in turbans and with long beards, watched as a Pakistani army commander, Major General Azhar Ali Shah, embraced representatives of the militants after the pact was signed.

    Many Al Qaeda militants and Taliban members fled to Waziristan after US-led forces overthrew the Taliban in Afghanistan in late 2001. Hundreds of Pakistani troops and militants were killed in the region as the government attempted to push its authority into semi-autonomous tribal lands on the Afghan border as part of efforts in the US-led war on terrorism.

    The peace agreement means that there will be no more free movement for tribes to enter into Afghanistan.

    "Except for trade, people will not be allowed to go to Afghanistan to launch attacks," (Bosh's note: which is a complete joke and completely unenforceable now that the Pakistani government's checkpoints will be removed) said Nek Zaman, a member of the tribal council who is also a member of the Pakistani parliament.
    Stop Quoting Ben

  • #2
    Face meet egg, egg meet face

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    Sunday, August 27, 2006 - Page updated at 12:00 AM

    U.S. general: Pakistan, Taliban not conspiring
    By FISNIK ABRASHI

    The Associated Press

    KABUL, Afghanistan — A coalition airstrike in southern Afghanistan killed a Taliban commander and 15 other militants, the U.S. military said Saturday. A top American general, meanwhile, said insurgents are still using neighboring Pakistan as a base for infiltration.

    Two French soldiers were killed and two others were wounded in the volatile east on Friday, while at least 13 other insurgents were killed in clashes with police and NATO in the south, the U.S. military said.

    On Saturday, Canadian troops in the south mistakenly killed a policeman and wounded six other people, including two civilians, according to NATO.

    Afghanistan is experiencing its worst bout of violence since the 2001 ouster of the Taliban regime for hosting al-Qaida leader Osama bin Laden. More than 1,600 people, mostly militants, have died in the past four months, according to an Associated Press tally of violent incidents reported by U.S., NATO and Afghan officials.

    Gen. John Abizaid, commander of the U.S. Central Command, said militants are using Pakistan as a base to infiltrate into Afghanistan, but he said the Pakistani government is not conspiring with them.

    "I think that Pakistan has done an awful lot in going after al-Qaida and it's important that they don't let the Taliban groups be organized in the Pakistani side of the border,"
    he said in Bagram, where the main U.S. military base in Afghanistan is located.

    Abizaid said he does not believe accusations of collusion between Pakistan's government and the resurgent Taliban rebels or other extremists.

    "You do not order your soldiers in the field against an enemy in order to play some sort of a game with neighboring countries," he said.

    Afghanistan repeatedly has criticized Pakistan for not doing enough to prevent Taliban militants and other rebels from crossing the border.

    Pakistan says it does all it can to tackle insurgents and has deployed 80,000 troops along the frontier.
    Stop Quoting Ben

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    • #3
      It's been addressed.

      U.S. Vows To Defeat Whoever It Is We're At War With

      September 26, 2001 | Issue 37•34

      WASHINGTON, DC—In a televised address to the American people Tuesday, a determined President Bush vowed that the U.S. would defeat "whoever exactly it is we're at war with here."

      "America's enemy, be it Osama bin Laden, Saddam Hussein, the Taliban, a multinational coalition of terrorist organizations, any of a rogue's gallery of violent Islamic fringe groups, or an entirely different, non-Islamic aggressor we've never even heard of... be warned," Bush said during an 11-minute speech from the Oval Office. "The United States is preparing to strike, directly and decisively, against you, whoever you are, just as soon as we have a rough idea of your identity and a reasonably decent estimate as to where your base is located."

      Added Bush: "That is, assuming you have a base."

      Bush is acting with the full support of Congress, which on Sept. 14 authorized him to use any necessary force against the undetermined attackers. According to House Speaker Dennis Hastert (R-IL), the congressional move enables the president to declare war, "to the extent that war can realistically be declared on, like, maybe three or four Egyptian guys, an Algerian, and this other guy who kind of looks Lebanese but could be Syrian. Or whoever else it might have been. Because it might not have been them."

      In addition to those responsible for the Sept. 11 attack, the U.S. is determined to exact revenge upon any nation found to have harbored the perpetrators.


      Any country would be well-advised to think about it.
      Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
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      • #4
        Lies, Pakistan is an ally!
        I need a foot massage

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        • #5
          Like Saudi Arabia!
          I need a foot massage

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          • #6
            Hm. So, to recap, we've kicked AQ out of a nation ruled by a chaotic, relatively weak regime that could be knocked over by some local warlords and a bit of US support. After which, we got preoccupied with other issues and didn't bother to put any effort into maintaining a relationship with one of our allies in kicking them out, which was summarily invaded by the ousted regime and AQ. As a result, the two groups are now being hosted by a more powerful state armed with nuclear weapons which is full of people who would not look kindly on any US attempt to strike inside their territory.

            Mission Accomplished!

            Bush
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            • #7
              My thread is much better.
              Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.

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              • #8
                But yeah, right. Whatever the Hell this guy is talking about. Dumbass.

                According to House Speaker Dennis Hastert (R-IL), the congressional move enables the president to declare war, "to the extent that war can realistically be declared on, like, maybe three or four Egyptian guys, an Algerian, and this other guy who kind of looks Lebanese but could be Syrian. Or whoever else it might have been. Because it might not have been them."
                Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
                "Hating America is something best left to Mobius. He is an expert Yank hater.
                He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead

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                • #9
                  Sounds rather Onion-ish, Sloww....
                  I've allways wanted to play "Russ Meyer's Civilization"

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                  • #10
                    Probably because it's from the Onion.
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                    • #11
                      Yes, indeed.

                      In spite of their best efforts at loosely quoting, they still got the message essentially correct.

                      The other, I just thought was funny.
                      Last edited by SlowwHand; September 6, 2006, 08:06.
                      Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
                      "Hating America is something best left to Mobius. He is an expert Yank hater.
                      He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead

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                      • #12
                        You expect things to be simple in Pakistan?

                        "ISLAMABAD, Pakistan (AP) _ Pakistan's top army spokesman on Wednesday vehemently denied saying in a news report that Osama bin Laden would not be taken into custody if he agreed to live peacefully in Pakistan. "This is absolutely fabricated, absurd. I never said this," Maj Gen Shaukat Sultan told The Associated Press, referring to an ABC News broadcast aired hours earlier.

                        The ABC report cited Sultan as saying in a telephone interview that al-Qaida chief bin Laden "would not be taken into custody" if found, "as long as one is being like a peaceful citizen." Sultan's recorded comments were included in the report, but it was not immediately clear whether he understood that bin Laden was the specific subject of discussion at that point in the interview. Sultan told the AP by phone that "what they are saying on Osama is absolutely fabricated." "Pakistan is committed to its policy on the war on terror, and Osama, caught anywhere in Pakistan, would be brought to justice," he said.

                        Asked for a response, Jeffrey Schneider, senior vice president of ABC News, told the AP by phone, "We simply played his comments as we recorded them." The ABC report also featured former White House counterterrorism official Richard Clarke saying a peace accord, signed Tuesday by Pakistan's government and pro-Taliban militants in the country, meant that "the Taliban and al-Qaida leadership have effectively carved out a sanctuary inside Pakistan." "I reject this comment," Sultan said Wednesday. Clarke is a news consultant with ABC.

                        In Washington, Pakistan's Ambassador Mahmud Ali Durrani issued a statement late Tuesday night saying Sultan "has been grossly misquoted in a section of U.S. media today." "Pakistan is on the hunt for Osama Bin Laden and his associates. If he is in Pakistan, today or any time later, he will be taken into custody and brought to justice.""
                        "A person cannot approach the divine by reaching beyond the human. To become human, is what this individual person, has been created for.” Martin Buber

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                        • #13
                          'If he is in Pakistan, bin Laden "would not be taken into custody," Major General Shaukat Sultan Khan told ABC News in a telephone interview, "as long as one is being like a peaceful citizen."'


                          In the quoted text, Khan does not name Bin Laden. One wonders what the full quote was.
                          "A person cannot approach the divine by reaching beyond the human. To become human, is what this individual person, has been created for.” Martin Buber

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                          • #14
                            I'm probably naive, but I don't see Pakistan harboring Bin Laden or anyone else of his breed. At least I hope not.
                            Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
                            "Hating America is something best left to Mobius. He is an expert Yank hater.
                            He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead

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                            • #15
                              Pakistan is a friggin' mess. Assuming nobody's been misquoted here... isn't this just an admission of reality?

                              -Arrian
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