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  • #61
    Originally posted by ajbera
    It's a shame. Lieberman is a good and decent man.
    I'd agree with that, if he weren't spinelessly hypocritical, as well has having an insane moralistic streak that makes him want to stifle the film, television, and video game industries.

    Oh, and that bit about him saying that it was time for all politicians to put the Terri Schiavo thing to rest didn't help my impression of him much either, because he was one of those who really pushed for Federal intervention on that whole circus.

    Also, the allegations that the Lamont campaign hacked his website when it was very clear that they just didn't pay enough for the bandwidth they needed... didn't help much either.
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    • #62
      I'm not sure that describes Lieberman very well, Spiff.

      Anyway, this sort of thing really ought to be more common.

      -Arrian
      grog want tank...Grog Want Tank... GROG WANT TANK!

      The trick isn't to break some eggs to make an omelette, it's convincing the eggs to break themselves in order to aspire to omelettehood.

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      • #63
        It's worth noting that two other members of Congress lost their respective primaries yesterday. A moderate Republican (Schwartz from MI) lost to a religious right, club-for-growth extremist, and a loony conspiracy theory Dem (McKinney from GA) lost to a moderate. Both seats are safe for their respective parties.
        "Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. "
        -Bokonon

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        • #64
          Originally posted by Ramo
          It's worth noting that two other members of Congress lost their respective primaries yesterday. A moderate Republican (Schwartz from MI) lost to a religious right, club-for-growth extremist, and a loony conspiracy theory Dem (McKinney from GA) lost to a moderate. Both seats are safe for their respective parties.
          Can't speak too much to the Schwartz Walberg issue and realistically it has little to do with Dems being closeminded and drifting hopelessly ever leftward anyway.

          As for McKinney THE reason she lost had nothing to do with her politics per se and everything to do with her assaulting a DC cop.
          "Just puttin on the foil" - Jeff Hanson

          “In a democracy, I realize you don’t need to talk to the top leader to know how the country feels. When I go to a dictatorship, I only have to talk to one person and that’s the dictator, because he speaks for all the people.” - Jimmy Carter

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          • #65
            By the way, for those who seem to want to paint Lamont as a loon... McKinney is a loon. Compare and contrast.

            -Arrian
            grog want tank...Grog Want Tank... GROG WANT TANK!

            The trick isn't to break some eggs to make an omelette, it's convincing the eggs to break themselves in order to aspire to omelettehood.

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            • #66
              Not entirely, Ogie. McKinney lost her seat in a primary to Majette in '02 (Majette ran for the Senate in '04, and McKinney ran for her old seat) for her looniess.

              The Schwartz-Walberg issue has to do with the Republicans being closeminded and drifting hopelessly rightward. The theme may be repeated in Rhode Island in about a month.
              "Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. "
              -Bokonon

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              • #67
                Originally posted by DinoDoc
                What's the polling data show for his run as an independent?
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                Poll data from 3 weeks ago showed among likely voters 51% said they'd vote Lieberman, 27% Lamont, and 9% for Schlesinger. Two things can be drawn from this: 1) The Republican is just a token candidate who isn't a serious contender 2) Lieberman has an almost 2:1 lead over Lamont among real voters instead of fringe activists voting in a primary.

                The lesson I take home with me is it is very unlikely Lieberman will be unseated.
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                • #68
                  Originally posted by Ramo
                  Not entirely, Ogie. McKinney lost her seat in a primary to Majette in '02 (Majette ran for the Senate in '04, and McKinney ran for her old seat) for her looniess.
                  Her looniness in both cases was the issue not her politics.

                  The Schwartz-Walberg issue has to do with the Republicans being closeminded and drifting hopelessly rightward. The theme may be repeated in Rhode Island in about a month.
                  Yet the big test (US Senate) was when Spectre weathered his RINO status.

                  Again I haven't been following the Schwartz-Walberg race. Moreover since this was originally a post about how Dems are intolerant to those daring to have a differing POV than the hard left that really means little t othe conversation now doesn't it?

                  I would suggest if you want to talk about how intolerant the Repug's base is you start a topic on it. Similar in fashion to the one you did back when Spectre was on the chopping block. (endangered RINOS or something to that effect if memory serves).
                  "Just puttin on the foil" - Jeff Hanson

                  “In a democracy, I realize you don’t need to talk to the top leader to know how the country feels. When I go to a dictatorship, I only have to talk to one person and that’s the dictator, because he speaks for all the people.” - Jimmy Carter

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by Oerdin


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                    Poll data from 3 weeks ago showed among likely voters 51% said they'd vote Lieberman, 27% Lamont, and 9% for Schlesinger. Two things can be drawn from this: 1) The Republican is just a token candidate who isn't a serious contender 2) Lieberman has an almost 2:1 lead over Lamont among real voters instead of fringe activists voting in a primary.

                    The lesson I take home with me is it is very unlikely Lieberman will be unseated.

                    I'ld say its way too early to say. Lamont will be getting LOTS of DNC money and as earlier stated Lieberman gets the Sore Loserman epithet.
                    "Just puttin on the foil" - Jeff Hanson

                    “In a democracy, I realize you don’t need to talk to the top leader to know how the country feels. When I go to a dictatorship, I only have to talk to one person and that’s the dictator, because he speaks for all the people.” - Jimmy Carter

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                    • #70
                      Her looniness in both cases was the issue not her politics.
                      From here (granted, I'm a long way from Georgia), it looked to me like her loonieness WAS her politics

                      -Arrian
                      grog want tank...Grog Want Tank... GROG WANT TANK!

                      The trick isn't to break some eggs to make an omelette, it's convincing the eggs to break themselves in order to aspire to omelettehood.

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                      • #71
                        A symptom perhaps. But her constituency lapped up her underdog for the downtrodden crap else they wouldn't have fallen for schpiel in 5 different elections.
                        "Just puttin on the foil" - Jeff Hanson

                        “In a democracy, I realize you don’t need to talk to the top leader to know how the country feels. When I go to a dictatorship, I only have to talk to one person and that’s the dictator, because he speaks for all the people.” - Jimmy Carter

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                        • #72
                          Well that can be quite effective. Assaulting police officers and accusing the President of... high treason, really (or insinuating the same), on the other hand, doesn't sell particularly well. Even if that President is as bad as Bush.

                          -Arrian
                          grog want tank...Grog Want Tank... GROG WANT TANK!

                          The trick isn't to break some eggs to make an omelette, it's convincing the eggs to break themselves in order to aspire to omelettehood.

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                          • #73
                            Originally posted by Ogie Oglethorpe
                            A symptom perhaps. But her constituency lapped up her underdog for the downtrodden crap else they wouldn't have fallen for schpiel in 5 different elections.
                            Actually, I'd disagree. I used to live in her district, and was a member of her constituency.

                            She was very good at playing the race card, and her looniness was her politics. This is the same woman who once went to visit Mobutu Sese Seko to share a common bond of friendship or some such, as well as strongly imply on multiple occasions that disliking her or her policies was racist.

                            Oh, and if your skin happened to have a low melanin count, you were much more likely to be naturally racist to her.
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                            • #74
                              And that actually appealed to a number of Dekalbians.
                              "Just puttin on the foil" - Jeff Hanson

                              “In a democracy, I realize you don’t need to talk to the top leader to know how the country feels. When I go to a dictatorship, I only have to talk to one person and that’s the dictator, because he speaks for all the people.” - Jimmy Carter

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                              • #75
                                Yes, Ogie. Unfortunately for the people of DeKalb, the voting patterns for or against McKinney tend to be divided among ethnic lines.

                                Part of the reason why she won so often earlier was the fact that the majority in DeKalb is--you guessed it! Black.

                                I know you know this, too, since you're vaguely in the area.

                                Frankly, I'm just glad that she's starting to be judged on the content of her (lacking) character.
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