The end of American democracy may be near

[Garth Vader]

Originally posted by Ming


I don't think anybody in Chicago has denied that serious vote fraud happens elsewhere... but it has to be pointed out every time people make the silly claim that only Republicans cheat... That's just a joke

And as far as national elections go... can you say Kennedy

I am not sure anybody has said only Republicans cheat, only that they cheated recently, and in the high profile Presidential election.

Are you happy with vote fraud as long as it's your side that wins?

[rah]

Originally posted by Vesayen
Rah. Democrats are as guilty of voter fraud from redistricing, to miscounting to illegal exclusions as Repulicans. Republicans have just had alot more sucess doing it latley.

Sorry, I live in Chicago where the Democrats win this distinction every election. So "lately" is similar for both parties.

[Ming]

Originally posted by Garth Vader
Are you happy with vote fraud as long as it's your side that wins?

Oh please...
Of course not... I don't like vote fraud period.

I'm just a little tired of all the implications that many people make that the Republicans are the only ones that do it... or that they do it more.

The facts are simple, both parties do it... so enough with the "we are better than you because you cheat more crap"... Both parties do it whenever they can, as much as they can, and they both suck for doing so.

I don't buy into the "holier than thou" attitude of some people...

[rah]

Originally posted by Garth Vader

I am not sure anybody has said only Republicans cheat, only that they cheated recently, and in the high profile Presidential election.

Can you say with certainty that the Dem's didn't cheat in the presidential election. Or definitive proof that anybody did?

[Winston]

People (including mods) managing to keep their heads level

[Garth Vader]

Originally posted by rah


Can you say with certainty that the Dem's didn't cheat in the presidential election. Or definitive proof that anybody did?

Maybe the Dems did try to cheat. I'd like to see questionable results for either side investigated by impartial or outside parties. The perps need to face severe consequences as well. But there needs to be outrage from both sides, directed at both sides.

I thought this was a pretty good article detailing irregularities, but is anybody going to investigate or do anything to keep it from happening again...

http://www.rollingstone.com/news/story/10432334/was_the_2004_election_stolen

[rah]

Yeah, I'm never happy when I hear about this type of stuff and I wish the followup was considerably more.
Now if we could rig it that an independent wins one, maybe both parties would work together to try to resolve it.

Until they're thoroughly investigated and tried, they're just allegations. There have been a lot of allegations over the years in Chicago.

Of course, since it's rare when the winners whine, the group in power is usually the one that takes heat.
So, Nationally that would be the repugnants and locally (for us) the denyocrats.

AND the best cheaters never get caught by definition.

[Chemical Ollie]

The end of American democracy may be near

Was the start of it ever close?

[The Mad Monk]

Originally posted by chegitz guevara

That reminds me -- I haven't read Goats in quite some time.