Middle East thread continued

[Imran Siddiqui]

Originally posted by notyoueither
Read on, Imran.

"On 15 May 2000, the United Nations received a map, dated 1966, from the Government of Lebanon which reflected the Government's position that these farmlands were located in Lebanon. However, the United Nations is in possession of 10 other maps issued after 1966 by various Lebanese government institutions, including the Ministry of Defense and the army, all of which place the farmlands inside the Syrian Arab Republic. The United Nations has also examined six maps issued by the Government of the Syrian Arab Republic, including three maps since 1966, which place the farmlands inside the Syrian Arab Republic."[1]

Yeah, and? Fact of the matter is that Lebanon, after Isreal's 2000 pullout claimed the Shebaa farms. In fact the UN report said that they were claiming that land AT THAT TIME. In fact that quote even says in 2000 that the Government of Lebanon held the position that Shebaa Farms were Lebanese.

Do you deny they claimed the Shebaa Farms at least since 2000?

Originally posted by notyoueither
Since 2000 you say? Those damned Israelis!

That kind of pisses all over your assertion that they are demanding this simply to keep the war going.

[Edan]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui


Did you forget that Isreal already tried the buffer zone thing?

I didn't claim it to be the perfect solution. I was merely countering che's claim that any buffer would be, in his words, "worthless".

And I don't remember rockets falling on Haifa then.

[notyoueither]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui


Yeah, and? Fact of the matter is that Lebanon, after Isreal's 2000 pullout claimed the Shebaa farms. In fact the UN report said that they were claiming that land AT THAT TIME. In fact that quote even says in 2000 that the Government of Lebanon held the position that Shebaa Farms were Lebanese.

Do you deny they claimed the Shebaa Farms at least since 2000?

They claimed it?

And that claim is good grounds to keep Hezbollah going?

And Hezbollah should then attack Israel and invite a response?

Are you as mad as a hatter?

[Edan]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
In fact that quote even says in 2000 that the Syrian controlled Government of Lebanon held the position that Shebaa Farms were Lebanese.

Fixed that for you.

[notyoueither]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
That kind of pisses all over your assertion that they are demanding this simply to keep the war going.

Why else are they claiming land that Lebanese Army maps show as being in Syria?

Answer that.

[Imran Siddiqui]

Originally posted by notyoueither
They claimed it?

Yes, they've claimed it since 2000 and didn't just invent this now to keep the war going as you wanted to insinuate .

[notyoueither]

Originally posted by notyoueither


Why else are they claiming land that Lebanese Army maps show as being in Syria?

Answer that.

[Imran Siddiqui]

Originally posted by notyoueither
Why else are they claiming land that Lebanese Army maps show as being in Syria?

Answer that.

Do you deny that they've been claiming the land since 2000, btw, that's 6 years before this conflict began?

Answer that.

[notyoueither]

Who gives a **** if they are claiming land that maps going back 50 years clearly show are Syrian?

Oh, I guess you would care if you wanted to justify the continued 'struggle' against Israel.

[notyoueither]

Oh, and some 14km by 2.5km were worth it for the people of Lebanon, weren't they?

There's your pire for dead babies.

This is insanity, and the insane are not in Tel Aviv.

[Imran Siddiqui]

Originally posted by notyoueither
Who gives a **** if they are claiming land that maps going back 50 years clearly show are Syrian?

Because if they've been planning this since 2000 then they must be fortune tellers! Especially since the current government of Lebanon is entirely different than the one around in 2000! Amazing feats of prediction! Maybe we should run our betting through them!

Fact remains that claiming that they are just inventing a claim to Shebaa Farms now to prolong the war is, simply put, a LIE. Not like you actually care about the truth anyway.

[notyoueither]

I didn't say they just invented it, councillor.

[Edan]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui


Because if they've been planning this since 2000 then they must be fortune tellers!

Yes. Syria must have been.

Or maybe they just wanted to use what they could to help empower Hezbollah as much as possible to keep this conflict going (andby conflict, I'm not limiting myself to this past week)

[Imran Siddiqui]

That was your insinuation. "Picking up on this lunacy" usually implies recently adopted a position which was not the position beforehand.

[notyoueither]

They have picked up on the lunacy that has justified Hezbollah's continued existance.

Hezbollah needed a reason to exist. What is that reason after Isreal pulled out of Lebanon?

Invent a part of Lebanon that the Israelis aren't out of yet and won't leave from!

Do you believe the UN, Imran?