iPod City: Apple criticized for factory conditions

[Agathon]

Originally posted by notyoueither

The EU is silent now, just wait til an EU corporation faces the level ot theft that MS does.

Yes, but that is a special case. Rather as if there was an epidemic of car theft, but 80% of the cars broke down within a mile of the theft.

It's hardly the same as real stealing.

[Urban Ranger]

Originally posted by notyoueither
Actually, it could be expected for some countries or groups to form blocks that might include withdrawing from WTO in the face of currency manipulation and theft of intellectual property.

Intellectual property? What a nonsense term.

Originally posted by notyoueither
The EU is silent now, just wait til an EU corporation faces the level ot theft that MS does.

I have always wondered how these people come up with these "estimations" of "thefts."

Do they call up companies and ask, "Are you using illegal copies of programs?" ::shrug::

[notyoueither]

Originally posted by Urban Ranger

Intellectual property? What a nonsense term.

It's one of the bases of wider trade.

You don't want wide open access? Keep theiving like Ali Baba and it will come to an end, for you.

I have always wondered how these people come up with these "estimations" of "thefts."

Do they call up companies and ask, "Are you using illegal copies of programs?" ::shrug::

No. They know roughly how many PCs in the PRC are running Windows. They know how many are paid for. The difference is a massive level of theft.

[notyoueither]

Originally posted by Agathon


Yes, but that is a special case. Rather as if there was an epidemic of car theft, but 80% of the cars broke down within a mile of the theft.

It's hardly the same as real stealing.

Interersting that you bring up automobiles.

A large number of cars stolen in the 'first world' end up in the third world, and they are somehow legal there.

[Kuciwalker]

Originally posted by Urban Ranger
Intellectual property? What a nonsense term.

What a brilliant argument...

[Odin]

"Free Trade" is a right-wing euphimism for "A race to the bottom in wages and regulations."


I swear, the Neo-Liberals worship the Market as if it was a god.

[MORON]

Originally posted by Odin
"Free Trade" is a right-wing euphimism for "A race to the bottom in wages and regulations."

The faster wages go down, the faster prices go down.

There is more to the market than one liners, and specific economic policy takes a bit of analysis as there is no one size fit all solution when considering the diverse level of development we are looking at here.

[DaShi]

Originally posted by Urban Ranger


Intellectual property? What a nonsense term.

Easy to say from a country that has none.

Perhaps, since the US is forced to follow all WTO regulations no matter how absurd, China could start doing the same thing. Or are they too busy not enforcing their millions of "meanful" labor laws?

[DaShi]

Originally posted by Kuciwalker


What a brilliant argument...

Enjoy it. It's the height of UR's reasoning ability. When you spout out other people's wrong ideas without fully understanding them yourself, you can't defend them when challenged. So best to just state them and run, while pretending to be an intellectual. If you happen to anger anyone or make a fool of yourself, you can just spend some posts later kissing ass to convince yourself that you're popular as well. Classic.

[DinoDoc]

Originally posted by Kuciwalker
Then look at China, a country that we brought out of global isolation in the 70's. How much progress have we made there?

How much?

[Urban Ranger]

Originally posted by notyoueither
It's one of the bases of wider trade.

How so?

Originally posted by notyoueither
You don't want wide open access? Keep theiving like Ali Baba and it will come to an end, for you.

That's a non-sequitur.

Originally posted by notyoueither
No. They know roughly how many PCs in the PRC are running Windows.

Right.

[Urban Ranger]

Originally posted by Kuciwalker
What a brilliant argument...

I have repeatedly pointed out that why the term "intellectual property" is nonsense in the past. I am not going to keep doing it.

[Kuciwalker]

I've heard your arguments. I just think that it's inane to argue against a term accepted by everyone who matters.

[Whoha]

Originally posted by DinoDoc
How much?

well the US treasury recently froze the assets of 4 chinese companies and a front company in America for assisting Iran in Missile tech, including state owned companies that have been sanctioned before on this very matter.

[DinoDoc]

Well that's certainly alot of progress. However, I was curious what Kuci might consider progress.