Fearmongering

[KrazyHorse]

It's a good thing those nutcases didn't get their hands on real explosives. One of the dumb ********* might have put his eye out.

[lord of the mark]

Originally posted by Arrian
I certainly feel good that our northern neighbors appear to be competant policemen.

-Arrian

"Canadian newspapers said the men had a training camp in a wooded area to the north of Toronto. Nearby residents had in the past fretted about night-time gunfire and wondered what the police helicopters were looking for as they buzzed overhead the following day."

[KrazyHorse]

What a bunch of retards.

[Arrian]

Well yeah. Lots of these schmucks are, thankfully.

-Arrian

[BlackCat]

Originally posted by Kontiki


The land border is a little over 5000 km long. Apparently, 2172 km goes through forest, and some more would go through undeveloped prairie. Another 3800 + km of water boundary, some of which would be lakes and rivers which wouldn't be difficult to cross.

Thank you for the details

I guess that patient people easily could find a path in those 2172 km of forest if they really wanted to get across.

Originally posted by lord of the mark


Pure wilderness in the technical sense, dunno, but probably not that much. Large areas are prairie, with farmers and all just might notice someone crossing their land. And a big chunk is water, the Great Lakes and the St Lawrence. But yeah, that still leaves a lot of miles of pretty rugged terrain, esp in the rockies, and in Maine. Not sure how good jihadis are at hiking through that kinda terrain though, or what the chances are of getting caught. Yeah its a long unguarded, border, but im not sure that means its porous.

I think that Kontiki disagrees a bit with you - both on the forest part (wich I think as wilderness) and the waters.

About jihadists being able or not to pass it, well, I hope that there are not that many Afghans amongst them - I guess that they would consider it a mere stroll in the park.

Considering the problems there are with the Mexican borders that is way shorter and doesn't have the forest problem, I think that the Canadian border is pretty open and cannot be closed.

[Mrs. Tuberski]

Originally posted by KrazyHorse


Nobody.

I don't know how incompetent you think our police force is, but if you think that somebody was going to set off massive truck bombs in the heart of Toronto, then go to Ottawa and behead the prime minister, and then somehow manage to cross into the US, build some more bombs and blow **** up down there then you're a ****ing lunatic.

fist of all i never said ur police force was incomptent
i was merely stating that they were caught and i seriously doubt that all the stuff they had on them wass all the had to make bombs and that canada was probably not the only target. but then again what the hell do i know

[lord of the mark]

Originally posted by Mrs. Tuberski
their plan was to bomb canada and then what??

The Kharzai govt in Afghanistan, of course. They seem to have hoped to get Canada to withdraw, which would of course lead to the fall of the Afghan govt at the hands of the Taliban.

[KrazyHorse]

Well, we all know that you guys can only win wars when we help you out...

[KrazyHorse]

Forget bombing North Vietnam or IEDs in Iraq.

The real problem was that you didn't have us to look after you.

[KrazyHorse]

Originally posted by Mrs. Tuberski

fist of all i never said ur police force was incomptent
i was merely stating that they were caught and i seriously doubt that all the stuff they had on them wass all the had to make bombs and that canada was probably not the only target. but then again what the hell do i know

Not much, apparently. Not to be rude, but where's the wild speculation coming from? The cops seized a handgun or two, some basic electronics equipment and a gym bag full of duct tape and screwdrivers.

These guys aren't ****ing criminal masterminds. They're self-appointed terrorist wannabes with less brains than balls, and no common sense whatsoever.

[lord of the mark]

Originally posted by BlackCat


Thank you for the details

I guess that patient people easily could find a path in those 2172 km of forest if they really wanted to get across.



I think that Kontiki disagrees a bit with you - both on the forest part (wich I think as wilderness) and the waters.

About jihadists being able or not to pass it, well, I hope that there are not that many Afghans amongst them - I guess that they would consider it a mere stroll in the park.

Considering the problems there are with the Mexican borders that is way shorter and doesn't have the forest problem, I think that the Canadian border is pretty open and cannot be closed.

Wilderness has a specific meaning here - its land that hasnt been altered by man, and so is subject to very specific and very stringent enviro controls. Im sure hardly any of the land on the Maine border with New Brunswick and PQ is wilderness - hell, something like a third of the state of Maine is OWNED by lumber companies.

Being able to climb mountains doesnt mean you wont encounter problems in a forest you dont know, in a different ecosystem. Plus theres always the possibility of running into lumberers, hunters, etc.

Yeah, lots of folks get through the Mexican border. But a lot die on the way, too. And they usually try to run to the nearest town and go to ground with the local population. A jihadi trying to go to ground, in say, northern Minnesota is going to face some very interesting cultural issues (a Danish Jihadi might do a tad better). Im not saying it would be IMPOSSIBLE to cross through the woods, just that the obstacles are significant enough that making crossing at the LEGAL crossing points more difficult is NOT obviously without value.

[KrazyHorse]

Originally posted by Arrian
Well yeah. Lots of these schmucks are, thankfully.

-Arrian

[lord of the mark]

Originally posted by KrazyHorse
Well, we all know that you guys can only win wars when we help you out...

Or else that youre clever enough to avoid wars we're likely to lose.

[KrazyHorse]

Either way, you guys should really let us run your foreign policy for you...

[lord of the mark]

Originally posted by KrazyHorse
Either way, you guys should really let us run your foreign policy for you...

Steve Harper with hundreds of nukes, hmm, I dunno.

It would sure settle the Hans Island matter pretty fast.