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  • #16
    Originally posted by KrazyHorse
    Eh. I find border security concerns regarding terrorism pretty silly, given that the only man who's tried to cross a border into the US for the purposes of terrorism (rather than at a port of entry from overseas) was immediately detained.

    As long as the principle exporters of terrorists are outside North America, said exporters must compare the costs/risks of going direct to the USA, vs going to Canada and then crossing the border. Let cost/risk of going by air to Canada = C(air can) Let Cost/risk of going by air to USA = C(air USA) Let cost of crossing the border north to south = C(Can/USA)

    As long as C(air can) + C(Can/USA) is lgreater than C(air USA) it makes sense to go direct to the USA. Even if C(air can) is less than C(air USA) and even i C(can/USA) is less than it should be.


    But now lets assume that Canada doesnt have to import terrorists from Europe or the ME, but manufactures them in Toronto. At this point the low value of C(Can/USA) may become more important.


    But the recent arrests are two edged. They show Canada has a vibrant manufacturing process for terrorists. But they also show Canada has a strong demand for terrorists, so the local manufacturers wanted to use all their product locally, and continue to cede the US market to non-North American suppliers (and the occasional low grade made in USA source). Now given this latter fact, I would tend to agree its unlikely that we will see many terrorists shipped south anytime soon, but if the demand in Canada were ever to drop, that could change.


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    • #17
      We have too many juicy targets here that are STILL not defended (including some targets from the recent 'list').
      "I have never killed a man, but I have read many obituaries with great pleasure." - Clarence Darrow
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      • #18
        I don't understand why Canadians have so many terorists. It's not like they can't work out their primal agression by beating a few baby seals.
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        • #19
          We make it unnecessarily difficult to get a seal-clubbing permit.
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          • #20
            Originally posted by Kontiki
            We make it unnecessarily difficult to get a seal-clubbing permit.
            Plus there's the issue of seasickness on the way to the seal herds
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            • #21
              Originally posted by Ogie Oglethorpe
              I don't understand why Canadians have so many terorists. It's not like they can't work out their primal agression by beating a few baby seals.
              Spoiler:
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              • #22
                Let's throw some fuel on the fire....

                Court: Feds can't deny Khadr a passport





                Abdurahman Khadr walks away from Ontario Superior Court following his brother's bail hearing in Toronto in December, 2005.(CPImages/Aaron Harris)
                TORONTO (CP) - The Federal Court says Ottawa can't deny the son of an Egyptian-born terrorist a Canadian passport because of national security concerns.

                The court has ruled that the federal government was wrong to deny Abdurahman Khadr's application two years ago.

                That's because new anti-terror provisions didn't legally exist when the self-proclaimed black sheep of the family made his application in 2004.

                Lawyers argued the case in December.

                Khadr returned to Canada two years after being arrested as a presumed member of al-Qaida in November 2001.

                He was later transferred to Guantanamo Bay and deported to Afghanistan.

                His brothers Abdullah and Omar have been charged with terrorist activities.
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                • #23
                  Originally posted by KrazyHorse
                  Yeah. Why do xenophobia and fearmongering play so well with your electorate?
                  It plays very well among the uneducated and untraveled... so with Republicans.
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                  • #24
                    How long is the borderline between Yankistan and Canukistan ? and how much of it is pure wilderness ? I guess that both numbers are pretty highso it's impossible to prevent any to cross if they really want. Those politicians are either heading straight towards single digit IQ's or have other agendas than security.

                    Btw, good job done catching those thugs before they did something nasty.
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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Oncle Boris
                      Spoiler:
                      Hanrahan, Suzanne suce des plottes
                      If i ever doubted you were a Quebecois, i don't now!
                      What?

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Ogie Oglethorpe
                        I don't understand why Canadians have so many terorists. It's not like they can't work out their primal agression by beating a few baby seals.
                        I went this year but came back empty handed. I kept tripping over old Beatles.
                        What?

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Oerdin


                          It plays very well among the uneducated and untraveled... so with Republicans.
                          I have to admit that this is the one time I'm going to agree with you on this. Most of the numbskulls have been Republicans.
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                          • #28
                            Looks like he was just using the wrong example if Wezil's post is anything to go by.
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                            • #29
                              humm not to be an ass here but the terroits u caught were canadian and about to build bombs, they got caught and the us is supposed to be ok with that cause they got caught??? im sorry but do any of u think they were gonna have a bubble bath with that **** or god forbid bomb canada?? hell no they were aiming for the us so yeah i think its necessary to guard the citizens of this country at all means possible
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                              • #30
                                apparently they were trying to blow up stuff in Toronto, the Stock exchange, the CN tower, some other stuff.

                                Apparently they even found going to Ottawa a challenge.
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