Star Trek Vs. Star Wars: The Wrath of the Geeks

[Kuciwalker]

Of course, SW never had any redeeming qualities to begin with (other than great special effects)

Or being among the greatest movies of all time.

[Locutus]

Originally posted by Kuciwalker
Or being among the greatest movies of all time.

[Kuciwalker]

IMDB:

1. 9.1 The Godfather (1972) 166,478
2. 9.0 The Shawshank Redemption (1994) 200,378
3. 8.9 The Godfather: Part II (1974) 94,976
4. 8.8 The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King (2003) 150,612
5. 8.8 Casablanca (1942) 82,833
6. 8.8 Schindler's List (1993) 123,203
7. 8.7 Shichinin no samurai (1954) 44,023
8. 8.7 Star Wars: Episode V - The Empire Strikes Back (1980) 132,691
9. 8.7 Buono, il brutto, il cattivo, Il (1966) 44,655
10. 8.7 Pulp Fiction (1994) 174,057
11. 8.7 Star Wars (1977) 168,525

AFI:

1. CITIZEN KANE (1941)
2. CASABLANCA (1942)
3. THE GODFATHER (1972)
4. GONE WITH THE WIND (1939)
5. LAWRENCE OF ARABIA (1962)
6. THE WIZARD OF OZ (1939)
7. THE GRADUATE (1967)
8. ON THE WATERFRONT (1954)
9. SCHINDLER'S LIST (1993)
10. SINGIN' IN THE RAIN (1952)
11. IT'S A WONDERFUL LIFE (1946)
12. SUNSET BOULEVARD (1950)
13. THE BRIDGE ON THE RIVER KWAI (1957)
14. SOME LIKE IT HOT (1959)
15. STAR WARS (1977)

[Locutus]

So because some American geeks think it's a good movie any other opinion is irrelevant?

The fact that all but 3 of those movies are from Hollywood alone makes those lists utterly irrelevant...

[Kuciwalker]

The second list is the American Film Institute. Of course they're from Hollywood.

So because some American geeks think it's a good movie any other opinion is irrelevant?

I'd say the incredible popularity of the movies warrants them a spot.

[Urban Ranger]

Originally posted by Lonestar
Except when they don't, unless you are saying they move faster than light...in orbit of planets.

They do, unless they are moving at impulse speed.

[Urban Ranger]

Originally posted by Lonestar
Oh yes, just like Borg Cubes are immune to phasers and Torpedos, but in First Contact it was torn the **** up before the E arrived.

Can't recall that. The Fed fleet was getting beat up by the Borg Cube (Worf's ship was breaking up and stuff). Then Picard and team got on the scene and they all fired at some spot at the Cube, eventually destroying it.

[Locutus]

Originally posted by Kuciwalker
The second list is the American Film Institute

... making it irrelevant on principle.

I'd say the incredible popularity of the movies warrants them a spot.

Titantic is still by a long shot the best selling movie of all time. Does that mean it's anything other than a load of sentimental dribble? Real-life shows like Big Brother and the like (don't know what shows are popular in the US/Canada today and I really don't want to) are ATM by far the most popular form of television in the world, does that make it even remotely watchable?

"Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it's time to pause and reflect." -- Mark Twain.

[Urban Ranger]

Originally posted by Kuciwalker

Of course, SW never had any redeeming qualities to begin with (other than great special effects)

Or being among the greatest movies of all time.

Star Wars is a fairy tale thinly coated in pseudoscientific technobabble.

There is nothing great about the movies, except for their ability to rack in the $.

[DaShi]

That pseudoscientific technobabble was mostly borrowed from Asian philosophy and lore.

[_BuRjaCi_]

You are all forgeting the SW EU superwapon the SunCrusher that's basicaly a little indestructable fast ship that destroys entire solar systems. How does Voyager deal with that...

They reroute the warp coil through the deflector array and inject it with borg nano probes, creating a pocket universe trapping the little ship there for eternity, while being chased by an imperial star destroyer and a borg cube after nearly being destroyed by an overwhelming fleet from the Dominion. damm...

[_BuRjaCi_]

Hey there's no "The Dominion strikes back" option in the poll !

[Lorizael]

Originally posted by Urban Ranger


Star Wars is a fairy tale thinly coated in pseudoscientific technobabble.

There is nothing great about the movies, except for their ability to rack in the $.

Unlike Star Trek, there is actually almost no science of any kind in Star Wars. It's mostly about the mythology, the characters, the plot... and the giant explosions and glowing swords.

[Tattila the Hun]

It has always seemed silly to me, that people base calculations of firepower to explosions and stuff... That asteroid wasn't blown to pieces because the turbolaser is powerfull, but because it looks nice on the screen...

[Lorizael]

It's called suspension of disbelief and verisimilitude. In order for science fiction to make sense to us nerds, we have to be able to measure it and count it and rationalize it.