Bill Clinton and North Country

[AnnC]

Armchair psychoanalysis

Originally posted by Ned
She had just see a film where the women were defamed when they spoke out. But when the topic of Bill Clinton came up, she did it herself.

So what is this magic hold that Bill seems to have on so many Americans that they will engage in some of the worst human behavior there is, defaming victims of sexual assault and abuse, to defend this man?

Does this explain Ned's hyper-emotional forum diatribes against any and everybody who stands to the left of himself? Could it be that he trolls internet forums looking for a proxy to stand in for his wife so he can bash her leftist opinions without endangering the peace at home?

Enquiring minds want to know . . .

[AnnC]

For the record, Monica Lewinsky is a slut, no question about it. Really, she and Clinton are two of a kind.

As far as I know, Paula Jones is not a slut and I believe her story about Clinton dropping his pants in front of her. However, she should have filed a sexual harassment complaint that very day instead of waiting for years and allowing herself to be used as a pawn by the "vast right-wing conspiracy".

[General Ludd]

Re: Re: Bill Clinton and North Country

Originally posted by Zkribbler


Just a reminder: Lewinsky was NOT sexually harassed. She bragged to her Beverly Hills friend before ever leaving for Washington D.C. that she was going to seduce the President. She therefore classifies as a slut.

I think that would actualy classify her as a seductress.

[MRT144]

Re: Armchair psychoanalysis

Originally posted by AnnC


Does this explain Ned's hyper-emotional forum diatribes against any and everybody who stands to the left of himself? Could it be that he trolls internet forums looking for a proxy to stand in for his wife so he can bash her leftist opinions without endangering the peace at home?

Enquiring minds want to know . . .

i am pointing to my nose at this very moment

[Colon™]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
I'm sorry Colon that you were born with no taste whatsoever , but The Thin Red Line is a wonderful movie which was unfortunetly released the same year Saving Private Ryan was, which colored expectations of it... it wasn't perfect (hardly any movie is), but was a damned good flick asking the philosophical questions of war while the ugliness of war was going of underneath, comparing man's destruction to nature. Good stuff

Oh man, "philosophal"... I can't believe how anyone can manage to keep a straight face in one of those over-the-top melodramatic dying scenes. If you want to see a war-movie that's intellectually engaging then go watch Paths Of Glory by Kubrick for instance.

[Imran Siddiqui]

Originally posted by Colon™
Oh man, "philosophal"... I can't believe how anyone can manage to keep a straight face in one of those over-the-top melodramatic dying scenes. If you want to see a war-movie that's intellectually engaging then go watch Paths Of Glory by Kubrick for instance.

Paths of Glory was a great film, but intellectually engaging? Are you supposed to think that the commander's order was good even for a second? What, it makes you wonder if the commanders always give the right orders?

So what if the dying scenes were a bit melodramatic, that didn't seem to phase the critics or most viewers any. The questions posed or the symbolism used don't diminish because the deaths went on a little too long.

[Dinner]

Re: Re: Re: Bill Clinton and North Country

Originally posted by General Ludd

I think that would actualy classify her as a seductress.

She was one in a long line of women who wanted to have sex with men who have power. Clinton was one of a long line of men who just wanted to have sex with a woman who wasn't his wife.

[Colon™]

Ever seen a Lynch or a Coen Brothers movie? If so, I can't believe you think the "symbolism" in Thin Red Line was the slightest bit interesting. For instance, interjecting a combat scene with a scene of a chicken being born, christ, can it get any tackier than that?

And if you couldn't spot the intrigues, the manipulation or willy-nillyness in Paths Of Glory, well...

[Zkribbler]

Originally posted by MRT144
better than nixon? impossible!

Nixon would have been a great President if only he'd have listened to his own speeches.

Stupendous speeches; abysmal President.

[Colon™]

He didn't seem to be all that bad, not considering his utter lack of ethics?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Nixon

Major initiatives

* Normalizing of diplomatic relations with the People's Republic of China and partially abandoning the Republic of China on Taiwan as part of Realpolitik, a foreign policy eschewing moral considerations. In the short term Nixon was successful in playing the "China card" against the Soviet Union and its client state North Vietnam.
* Détente, or the peaceful pause in the Cold War; détente ended in 1979, replaced by another phase of the Cold War.
* Establishment of the Environmental Protection Agency.
* Establishment of the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration.
* Establishment of the Drug Enforcement Administration.
* Establishment of the Supplemental Security Income program.
* Establishment of the Office of Minority Business Enterprise
* Post Office Department abolished as a cabinet department and reorganized as a government owned corporation, the U.S Postal Service.
* SALT I, or Strategic Arms Limitation Talks, led to the signing of the Anti-Ballistic Missile Treaty.
* "Vietnamization": the training and arming of South Vietnamese forces to allow the withdrawal of U.S. troops from Vietnam.
* Suspension of the convertibility of the US dollar into gold, a central point of the Bretton Woods system, allowing its value to float in world markets.
* Space Shuttle program started.
* Endorsed an enlightened self-determination policy for Native Americans that changed the direction of policy as continued from the New Deal through the Great Society.

Personally I wouldn't really approve of the interventionist bits, such as wage and price controls, but I'm still struck by his centrism.

[Zkribbler]

I'll grant, he was a centerist.

...except for that whole "Price Controls" thingie, which was ridiculously leftist.

[Colon™]

Yeah, but I meant overall and within the context of the time. Price controls weren't considered to be very radical back then.

[techumseh]

Re: Re: Re: Re: Bill Clinton and North Country

Originally posted by Oerdin


She was one in a long line of women who wanted to have sex with men who have power. Clinton was one of a long line of men who just wanted to have sex with a woman who wasn't his wife.

For once I agree with Oerdin. Lewinsky wanted to have sex with Clinton. So what? How does that make her a slut? People are people. Get over it. Move on.

[techumseh]

Originally posted by Colon™

Personally I wouldn't really approve of the interventionist bits, such as wage and price controls, but I'm still struck by his centrism.

I also agree with Colon™. Clinton could not be considered a left winger anywhere except the US. By the standards of most democratic countries he would be considered a moderate conservative.

[Zkribbler]

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Originally posted by techumseh
How does that make her a slut?

(a) She hadn't even met him yet when she decided to seduce him.
(b) She knew he was married.