Bill Clinton and North Country

[Dis]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui


I though you made that up, but apparently not!

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0117550/

I hate to threadjack, but this is too funny.

I think this says it all. Anyone who paid money to see this deserves what they got.

Plot Outline: An evil millionaire (Hulk Hogan) gets amnesia and then belives that he is Santa Claus.

[Dis]

presidents aren't christian, they only pretend to be.

[Ned]

Originally posted by DinoDoc
So Ned thinks it is OK to sell military secrets to hostile foreign power. Interesting...

No I don't. I did say that Clinton was corrupt. Obviously, he was the most corrupt president since, well, .... Actually, he may take the cake.

Note here the silence of the lambs on this issue. No screaming for impeachment here by the Clinton-apologists. Selling arms to Iran? String Reagan up from the nearest tree for TREASON. But sell missle-aiming technology to the Chinese for personal gain, well that is just fine, for after all, Clinton, like Christ, walks on water.

[Ned]

We should also mention, just in passing, all the pardons Clinton sold in his last days for personal gain. It is a wonder why Bush let him get away with that one. Now the Bush family and Clinton are best buds, and Bush is pandering to the leftist agenda. It makes one think.

[Q Classic]

I have a hard time imagining Clinton's Administration being more corrupt than say, Ulysses S. Grant.

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...of course, Grant was a Republican, and therefore above reproach.

[Ned]

Originally posted by Q Cubed
I have a hard time imagining Clinton's Administration being more corrupt than say, Ulysses S. Grant.

...

...of course, Grant was a Republican, and therefore above reproach.

Adiministration?

Did I say anything about Administration?

[Ned]

See:

ASSOCIATED PRESS

LAS VEGAS (AP) - Former President Bill Clinton on Sunday said President Bush is doing a good job on immigration reform, praising his call for better border security and moderation in dealing with illegal immigrants.

http://www.lasvegassun.com/sunbin/stories/nevada/2006/may/21/052110736.html

The cosiness between the Bushes and Clintons is sickening, but it does explain why Bush gave Clinton a pass on his massive corruption and why Clinton is now praising Bush.

[Imran Siddiqui]

Originally posted by Ned
We should also mention, just in passing, all the pardons Clinton sold in his last days for personal gain. It is a wonder why Bush let him get away with that one. Now the Bush family and Clinton are best buds, and Bush is pandering to the leftist agenda. It makes one think.

It'd be hard for Bush to say anything, since George H.W. Bush pardoned all the Iran-Contra folks... perhaps to save his own skin, or at the very least, to bail out his friends.

And you want to talk corruption! Oy vey, this President takes the cake! One word: Halliburton.

[Ned]

Imran, I thought of that too, that Bush's father might be implicated in the same way as Bill the Womanizer.

Halliburton? Give me the facts and not some Bash Bush comedian's latest conspiracy theory.

[Imran Siddiqui]

http://www.halliburtonwatch.org/

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halliburton

In 2001 it was reported by The Wall Street Journal that a subsidiary of Halliburton Energy Services called Halliburton Products and Services Ltd. opened an office in Tehran. The company, HPS, operated "behind an unmarked door on the ninth floor of a new north Tehran tower block." Although HPS was incorporated in the Cayman Islands in 1975 and is "non-American", it shares both the logo and name of Halliburton Energy Services and, according to Dow Jones Newswires offers services from Halliburton units world-wide through its Tehran office. Such behaviour, undertaken while Cheney was CEO of Halliburton, may have violated the Trading with the Enemy Act. A Halliburton spokesman, responding to inquiries from Dow Jones, said "This is not breaking any laws. This is a foreign subsidiary and no US person is involved in this. No US person is facilitating any transaction. We are not performing directly in that country." No legal action has been taken against the company or its officials.

In November 2002, KBR was tasked to plan oil well firefighting in Iraq, and in February 2003 was issued a contract to conduct the work. Critics contend that it was a no-bid contract, awarded due to Dick Cheney's position as Vice President.[1] Concern was also expressed that the contract could allow KBR to pump and distribute Iraqi oil.[1]. Others contend, however, that this was not strictly a no-bid contract, and was invoked under a contract that KBR won in a competitive bid process.[2] The contract, referred to as LOGCAP, is a contingency-based contract that is invoked at the convenience of the Army. Because the contract is essentially a retainer, specific orders are not competitively bid (as the overall contract was). It has also been argued that when the contract was invoked in a similar manner during the Balkans crisis (when Bill Clinton was president), there was no controversy and very little scrutiny of the contract; proponents of this viewpoint argue that the KBR's LOGCAP contract was made a political issue by opponents of President Bush and Vice President Cheney.[2]

In May 2003, Halliburton revealed in SEC filings that its KBR subsidiary had paid a Nigerian official $2.4 million in bribes in order to receive favorable tax treatment. [1] [2]

KBR has contracts in Iraq worth up to $18 billion, including a single no-bid contract known as "Restore Iraqi Oil" (RIO) which has an estimated worth of $7 billion.

Greenhouse, who provided the bulk of testimony, spoke for several minutes about her involvement in the evaluation and crafting of government Army contracts, and explaining how her superiors undermined and dismissed her concerns of illegal business practices. "Ultimately my main concern was the repeated insistence RIO contract be awarded to KBR without competitive bidding," Greenhouse said. She testified to have been given misinformation in answer to her complaints, saying she was "overtly misled."

Mayberry, still in Iraq, testified by video from questions prepared by the committee. He said that KBR routinely sold expired food rations to the Army.

The recorded interviewer asked, "Are you saying that Halliburton deliberately falsified the number of meals they prepared and then submitted false claims for reimbursement and that they did this to make up for past amounts auditors had disallowed?" Mayberry firmly answered "yes." He said that serving expired food rations was "an everyday occurrence, sometimes every meal." He also explained that Halliburton systematically overcharged for the number of meals as well, saying, "they were charging for 20,000 meals and they were only serving 10,000 meals." Dorgan later commented, "obviously there's no honor here, by a company that would serve outdated food to our troops in Iraq."

Halliburton and its subcontractors contend that billing discrepencies for the dining facilities stemmed from interpretive differences in their contracts, which required them to be prepared to serve a minimum number of meals per day. When they billed for these minimum numbers however, the DCAA countered that they should only be required to pay for meals served. Of the over $200 million in question, $51 million was eventually retained by the U.S. Army Field Support Command.

Mayberry also claimed would-be whistleblowers were threatened "to be sent to Fallujah" and other "places under fire" if they talked to media or governmental oversight officials. In 2003 and 2004, Fallujah had been well known as dangerous for foreign troops and civilians. "I personally was sent to Fallujah for three weeks. The manager told me that I was being sent away until the auditors were gone, because I had talked to the auditors," Mayberry said.

"The threat of being sent to a camp under fire was their way of keeping us quiet. The employees who talked to auditors were sent to camps under more fire than other camps, and Anaconda." This report led Dorgan and others to voice considerable outrage.

[Ned]

Imran, your quotes don't amount to much, do they? Just more random facts that suggest nothing more than guilt by association. Cheney was CEO of Halliburton. Therefor, all its misdeeds whether before or after Cheney became VP, are the responsibility of this VP.

Nonsense.

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by Zkribbler
I'll grant, he was a centerist.

...except for that whole "Price Controls" thingie, which was ridiculously leftist.

Hell, by today's standards, Nixon would be to the left of the mainstream Democratic Party.

[Ned]

Originally posted by chegitz guevara


Hell, by today's standards, Nixon would be to the left of the mainstream Democratic Party.

Hardly.

But he certainly was no conservative.

[chequita guevara]

Exactly which mainstream leaders in the DP are for universal health care, price controls, and a guaranteed minimum income? . . . I'll give you Ted Kennedy.

[Ned]

My how the party positions have changed. Nixon today would be considered a far left liberal. Kennedy would be considered a conservative.