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    Hirsi Ali becoming a yank - peace in Holland

    BBC NEWS | Europe | Dutch MP to quit amid asylum row
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/4986418.stm
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    Dutch MP to quit amid asylum row

    Controversial Somali-born Dutch MP Ayaan Hirsi Ali has said she will resign after admitting she lied on her asylum application.

    Ms Hirsi Ali said she would quit after the country's immigration minister withdrew her Dutch citizenship.

    A fierce critic of conservative Islam, Ms Hirsi Ali rose to prominence in 2004 after her film-maker colleague Theo van Gogh was killed by a Muslim extremist.

    She has since had police protection, amid threats from Islamic extremists.

    Ms Hirsi Ali wrote the script for Van Gogh's TV film Submission, which angered many Muslims.

    'Saddened but relieved'

    Ms Hirsi Ali announced her decision at a news conference in The Hague.

    "Today I resign as a member of parliament," she was quoted by AFP news agency as saying.

    "I will leave the Netherlands, saddened but also relieved. I will pack my bags. I will go on."

    Ms Hirsi Ali came under pressure to resign after a Dutch television programme last week broadcast details of her falsified 1992 asylum application.

    In the documentary, Ms Hirsi Ali said that when she arrived in the Netherlands she had come straight from Somalia, whereas actually she had lived in three different countries in the interim.

    Ms Hirsi Ali said she had already admitted lying to win asylum in the Netherlands when she was vetted as a candidate for parliament in 2002

    The MP came under fresh pressure last month after a Dutch court ruled that she must leave her home in The Hague because neighbours felt she was a security risk.

    Citizenship annulled

    Dutch Immigration Minister Rita Verdonk said on Monday that in the light of the programme and other facts, the MP's citizenship was unlikely to be valid.

    Ms Verdonk - like Ms Hirsi Ali a member of the centre-right VVD party - withdrew Ms Hirsi Ali's Dutch citizenship on Tuesday.

    "It is difficult to live with so many threats on your life and such a level of police protection," Hirsi Ali was quoted by the Associated Press news agency as saying.

    "It is difficult to work as a parliamentarian if you have nowhere to live. All that is difficult but not impossible. It has become impossible since last [Monday] night."

    Dutch media has reported that Ms Hirsi Ali will go to work for the American Enterprise Institute, a conservative think tank, in Washington.
    Nice people, these dutchies - a MP is threatened on her life, but they are more worried for their tulips.

    Sad that a courageous woman has to leave europe
    With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.

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  • #2
    PRAISE ALLAH no wonder The Netherlands will be the first european country converting to Islam
    I will never understand why some people on Apolyton find you so clever. You're predictable, mundane, and a google-whore and the most observant of us all know this. Your battles of "wits" rely on obscurity and whenever you fail to find something sufficiently obscure, like this, you just act like a 5 year old. Congratulations, molly.

    Asher on molly bloom

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    • #3
      Weird story about how she is coming to live in the States.

      What kind of person is she? Is she quality? Or is she a blowhard?
      I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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      • #4
        I wouldn't call her a blowhard since she would be dead in a few seconds if she ever came into reach of an islamic fanatic. Neither is she a "rockefeller" child, so she can't maintain her own army to protect her.

        I would say quality.
        With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.

        Steven Weinberg

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        • #5
          it's a shame she's been driven out like this.
          "The Christian way has not been tried and found wanting, it has been found to be hard and left untried" - GK Chesterton.

          "The most obvious predicition about the future is that it will be mostly like the past" - Alain de Botton

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          • #6
            Driven out? She lied on her ****ing application form!
            12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
            Stadtluft Macht Frei
            Killing it is the new killing it
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            • #7
              I agree, it's a shame that being an islam-basher doesn't put you above the law. I could steal stuff and then walk away free by drawing a few cartoons.
              Why can't you be a non-conformist just like everybody else?

              It's no good (from an evolutionary point of view) to have the physique of Tarzan if you have the sex drive of a philosopher. -- Michael Ruse
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              • #8
                she wasnt entitled to asylum under Dutch law apparently, and so they had no choice but to toss her. And her own party, which would have been the logical one to push for her to stay, is tough on immigration and couldnt do so without looking like hypocrites.

                Nonetheless, she seems to be a very good person, and she is most welcome to the United States.
                "A person cannot approach the divine by reaching beyond the human. To become human, is what this individual person, has been created for.” Martin Buber

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                • #9
                  Well in truth the court ruled she had to leave The Hague because she posed a threat to neighbors.

                  She lost her citizenship otoh due to lying on asylum forms.

                  Tehcnically she lost her residence due to threat posed to neghbors, so driven out is essentially accurate.
                  "Just puttin on the foil" - Jeff Hanson

                  “In a democracy, I realize you don’t need to talk to the top leader to know how the country feels. When I go to a dictatorship, I only have to talk to one person and that’s the dictator, because he speaks for all the people.” - Jimmy Carter

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by KrazyHorse
                    Driven out? She lied on her ****ing application form!
                    that was known 4 years ago.

                    "Ms Hirsi Ali said she had already admitted lying to win asylum in the Netherlands when she was vetted as a candidate for parliament in 2002"
                    "A person cannot approach the divine by reaching beyond the human. To become human, is what this individual person, has been created for.” Martin Buber

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                    • #11
                      Damn, LOTM, you beat me on that - KH apparently didn't read it all.
                      With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.

                      Steven Weinberg

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Ogie Oglethorpe
                        Well in truth the court ruled she had to leave The Hague because she posed a threat to neighbors.

                        She lost her citizenship otoh due to lying on asylum forms.

                        Tehcnically she lost her residence due to threat posed to neghbors, so driven out is essentially accurate.
                        I really only know of one country where you can evict a politician because the neighbours are worried because said one is threathened - Holland.
                        With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.

                        Steven Weinberg

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by lord of the mark

                          Nonetheless, she seems to be a very good person, and she is most welcome to the United States.
                          If she were a good person, she'd not accept work for a consie think-tank.

                          As for things being known four years ago, surely that means she should've been stripped of citizenship back then, not that she should get to keep it now.
                          Why can't you be a non-conformist just like everybody else?

                          It's no good (from an evolutionary point of view) to have the physique of Tarzan if you have the sex drive of a philosopher. -- Michael Ruse
                          The Nedaverse I can accept, but not the Berzaverse. There can only be so many alternate realities. -- Elok

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Last Conformist

                            If she were a good person, she'd not accept work for a consie think-tank.
                            AEI is a very good place.
                            "A person cannot approach the divine by reaching beyond the human. To become human, is what this individual person, has been created for.” Martin Buber

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Last Conformist

                              If she were a good person, she'd not accept work for a consie think-tank.
                              At least she isn't an evil person and are going to work for a leftist think tank

                              As for things being known four years ago, surely that means she should've been stripped of citizenship back then, not that she should get to keep it now.
                              or that it was not considered a serious crime - vettings for becoming parliament members tends to be pretty harsh.
                              With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.

                              Steven Weinberg

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