Communists start both World Wars

[Darius871]

Originally posted by Dr Strangelove
When was Mao's attack on the Japanese in Peking? IIRC the war started with the Japanese drive from Manchuria towards Peking, not after they occupied it.

That's not entirely accurate; the Tangu Truce established a DMZ south of the Great Wall that included Beiping & Tianjin, then the He-Umezu Agreement removed all GMD government bodies in Hebei province, and finally the creation of the Hebei-Chahar Council gave Japan administrative control of the area. By 1937 it was Chinese territory in name only.

As for the insinuation that the communists fired the first shots in the Marco Polo Bridge Incident, that's way out of right field. I'd need to see somthing more than a short quip from the Hitler Channel to buy it.

[BlackCat]

Originally posted by Ramo


That post wasn't meant to be taken seriously... I made a few pretty huge exaggerations.

It was just too close to reality - germs actually practiced a lot in dive bombing making the stuka a dangerous weapon.

[Thorn]

Hmm..... What did Mcarthy start this thread, is he back from the grave, heh, zombie mcarthy, just in time to save Bush in the polls, blah blah blah, etc etc etc........................

[Ogie Oglethorpe]

Ned

[chequita guevara]

Oh, you through a bomb and that makes you an anarchist? They were Serbian nationalists.

[Ned]

Originally posted by Dr Strangelove
When was Mao's attack on the Japanese in Peking? IIRC the war started with the Japanese drive from Manchuria towards Peking, not after they occupied it.

The war started with the so-called "Peiking Incident." Until the History Channel bit, I had no idea that what happend was that Mao attacked the Japanese in Peiking.

[Ned]

Originally posted by Hueij
Ned is back!! Yeah!



And with the same old stuff

Thanks.

[Ned]

Originally posted by Dis
is this a joke post

But seriously, the germans do get too much blame for WW1.

Yeah, and somewhat unfairly as they had no idea of the Austrian ultimatum before it was sent.

[Ned]

Originally posted by Ogie Oglethorpe
Ned

Hey there!

[Ned]

Originally posted by Ecthy
Ned, you WERE ironic about that, right? You DO know those claims are utter bull****? That the structural explanations for both world wars ARE quite consistent and cannot be easily refuted with ideologically charged HATE?

No doubt about the "structure." But commies sparked the fuse.

Until the History Channel bit, I assumed that the people behind the slaying of the Archduke were Serb nationals. But, instead, they were anarchists who fully intended to spark a war.

[Ned]

Originally posted by BlackCat
Thanks for reminding me Hueij



Welcome back Ned - it has been a little dull with only Asher making noise (that is in the periods he isn't banned )

Your welcome!

[Ned]

Originally posted by Velociryx
IMO, this thread would be more entertaining if it were entitled:

Fez started both World Wars

Now THERE's a topic you can really sink your teeth into....





-=Vel=-

Nah. Commies are a more fun target I think.

[Elok]

Ahhh, so this is the "Nediverse" of which you have spoken?

[Ned]

Originally posted by chegitz guevara
Oh, you through a bomb and that makes you an anarchist? They were Serbian nationalists.

Che, what you say here is what I was taught. The HC said they were anarchists. Given the meaning of that word today, I think it is clear they were commies.

They were hired by the "Black Hand," which appears to be a terrorist organization operated by the Serbian government. http://www.lib.byu.edu/estu/wwi/comment/blk-hand.html

The reason Austria declared war was that Serbia declined to allow Austria to participate in the investigation of the terrorists. Given what we now know of the Black Hand, there is little doubt as to why Serbia rejected this Austrian demand.

[Ned]

Originally posted by Elok
Ahhh, so this is the "Nediverse" of which you have spoken?

Elok, the Nediverse ,or Nedaverse as it is usually spelled, is a lot of fun. Welcome!