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  • Que l’Univers n’est qu’un défaut dans la pureté de Non-être.

    - Paul Valery

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    • Originally posted by laurentius
      why are you bringin refresh rates into this debate anyway. All you need to think about is the contrast ansd WASTE TIME.
      Because 1080p/30 is 1080i/60 with a buffer to blend the frames before displaying it.

      1080p/60 is 60 frames a second of full images. Just like 720 (720p/60).

      Do you really not understand that HDTVs have supported 1920x1080 resolutions for a long time, and the Xbox 360 supports that resolution as well?

      The only difference is the "1080p" standard is 60fps of a single image per frame, while "1080i" is 60fps with half an image in each frame (interlaced).
      "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
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      • Originally posted by laurentius
        the 1080i is crap and we both know it. please dont take me for an idiot.
        I don't agree, it has its advantages.

        Very few things move fast enough to warrant the doubled bandwidth requirements of 1080p.

        Even hockey is broadcast in 1080i (in Canada) and it looks gorgeous, and it's very fast.
        "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
        Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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        • The word you are looking for for half a frame is a "field."
          I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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          • Originally posted by Asher

            Because 1080p/30 is 1080i/60 with a buffer to blend the frames before displaying it.

            1080p/60 is 60 frames a second of full images. Just like 720 (720p/60).

            Do you really not understand that HDTVs have supported 1920x1080 resolutions for a long time, and the Xbox 360 supports that resolution as well?

            The only difference is the "1080p" standard is 60fps of a single image per frame, while "1080i" is 60fps with half an image in each frame (interlaced).
            !!!!!111 really?

            And what makes you think I dont know much more of these than you?
            Que l’Univers n’est qu’un défaut dans la pureté de Non-être.

            - Paul Valery

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            • Originally posted by laurentius
              !!!!!111 really?

              And what makes you think I dont know much more of these than you?
              Because you were curious why I brought up refresh rates...
              "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
              Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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              • The main reason why 1080p will be useless for quite a while is adoption. The vast majority of HDTVs in homes do not have HDMI inputs, and they won't be getting those until they upgrade their TV (which isn't likely to happen any time soon!). And 1080p is only possible with HDMI.
                "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
                Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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                • Yeah because it doesnt make much sense. Why would anyone be satsfied with laminated(?) 10080i when PS3 will be capable of full 1080?
                  Que l’Univers n’est qu’un défaut dans la pureté de Non-être.

                  - Paul Valery

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                  • I don't know much

                    how can we get more than 60fps? I prefer 80 or so...

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                    • Most of the 1300x760 HD ready LCD tves sold here are equipped with HDMI...maybe in Canada and USA ypu arent as lucky...
                      Que l’Univers n’est qu’un défaut dans la pureté de Non-être.

                      - Paul Valery

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                      • Originally posted by laurentius
                        Yeah because it doesnt make much sense. Why would anyone be satsfied with laminated(?) 10080i when PS3 will be capable of full 1080?
                        Because PS3 games will not use 1080p. Do the math for the bandwidth required for that and you'll see why.

                        The graphics chip on the PS3 has 22GB/s of bandwidth.
                        "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
                        Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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                        • Originally posted by laurentius
                          Most of the 1300x760 HD ready LCD tves sold here are equipped with HDMI...maybe in Canada and USA ypu arent as lucky...
                          Sold now, but that doesn't retroactively upgrade the HDTVs sold over the past 5 years.

                          My HDTV only has Component.
                          "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
                          Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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                          • Originally posted by Asher

                            I mark your words, and discard them with the rest of the trash you've spewed tonight.

                            MS has the ability and the pedigree to gamble way more than Sony will. As you said, Playstation is their bread and butter these days -- not something you'll gamble with. MS has way more money to invest and huge profit margins to play off of, and Sony is teetering on the edge of profitability.

                            For MS it's a strategic move more than a business move -- especially with Sony saying Linux will be on the PS3's harddrive. That's a huge threat to Windows, MS' bread and butter...

                            That is why they don't bat an eye sinking billions of dollars in losses into Xbox, and that is why Sony is in a bad place trying to push an expensive new standard against a company with deeper pockets and less to lose.
                            Oilers rule. Fact.
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                            • I dont think its tnhat straightforward. If it is however it means that the 1080 wont be used in FPS games but in games like the Myst it will make a huge difference...
                              Que l’Univers n’est qu’un défaut dans la pureté de Non-être.

                              - Paul Valery

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                              • Flames have clinched a playoff berth and oilers are one game from being eliminated. Oilers suck.
                                "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
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