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  • Originally posted by DanS
    M$ isn't willing to gamble anything for HD-DVD and it shouldn't.
    Exactly and thats why thwe Blu Ray is going to prevail......
    Que l’Univers n’est qu’un défaut dans la pureté de Non-être.

    - Paul Valery

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    • But perhaps not the PS3.
      I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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      • Honestly, unless either of them become reasonably priced in a hurry, both Bluray and PS3 will be doomed to failure -- bluray failing and taking the PS3 down with it.
        "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
        Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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        • yeah, I know I for one am only willing to pay so much for a consol

          and I bought a PSP when it came out

          and am going to the Apolycon

          JM
          Jon Miller-
          I AM.CANADIAN
          GENERATION 35: The first time you see this, copy it into your sig on any forum and add 1 to the generation. Social experiment.

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          • Yeh, price will be key for the PS3 and 360.
            I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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            • Originally posted by Asher

              I mark your words, and discard them with the rest of the trash you've spewed tonight.

              MS has the ability and the pedigree to gamble way more than Sony will. As you said, Playstation is their bread and butter these days -- not something you'll gamble with. MS has way more money to invest and huge profit margins to play off of, and Sony is teetering on the edge of profitability.

              For MS it's a strategic move more than a business move -- especially with Sony saying Linux will be on the PS3's harddrive. That's a huge threat to Windows, MS' bread and butter...

              That is why they don't bat an eye sinking billions of dollars in losses into Xbox, and that is why Sony is in a bad place trying to push an expensive new standard against a company with deeper pockets and less to lose.
              Hahahaaa you actually discard them...thats amusing. S oyou dont thin that i've said anything constructive the whole night... thanks dude, your a reral sport. Anyway I dont disrespect the way you obviously do me. I think you've had some valid points during the night and I'm even willing ot agree on soem of them. One of these points is the diference in the quality of HD EU wants primaruly 1080 where the NA wants 720. There are many people with useless 360 lying around so they may be willing to spend on over priced HD DVD preipherals, in EU and Japan well go straight ot blu ray.

              What comes to the bread and butter I would be surprised if Sory wasent going to be able to convince the Japanese industry to throw in some additional trillions of yens to defent Fortress Japan. And when that happens MS will be a relatively small player in the reliarty of interconnected investemnt and business deals....
              Que l’Univers n’est qu’un défaut dans la pureté de Non-être.

              - Paul Valery

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              • you know that already 50+% of TVs I see for sale are HD?

                I even will probably get one (a cheap one, ~$400, but still)

                JM
                Jon Miller-
                I AM.CANADIAN
                GENERATION 35: The first time you see this, copy it into your sig on any forum and add 1 to the generation. Social experiment.

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                • What is with you and your big resolution nonsense?

                  The vast majority of US HDTV content is 1080 already, as are the vast majority of sets. Xbox 360 can output 1080 as well.

                  The difference is 1080p. 1080p/60 isn't fully ratified last I checked, and I'm pretty sure no TVs available even support that. 1080p is a non-issue and will be for about 7+ years.
                  "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
                  Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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                  • Originally posted by Jon Miller
                    you know that already 50+% of TVs I see for sale are HD?

                    I even will probably get one (a cheap one, ~$400, but still)

                    JM
                    jon,

                    what are tou trying ot say?
                    Que l’Univers n’est qu’un défaut dans la pureté de Non-être.

                    - Paul Valery

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                    • Originally posted by Asher
                      What is with you and your big resolution nonsense?

                      The vast majority of US HDTV content is 1080 already, as are the vast majority of sets. Xbox 360 can output 1080 as well.

                      The difference is 1080p. 1080p/60 isn't fully ratified last I checked, and I'm pretty sure no TVs available even support that. 1080p is a non-issue and will be for about 7+ years.
                      1080/60? You refer to a refresh rate here?
                      Que l’Univers n’est qu’un défaut dans la pureté de Non-être.

                      - Paul Valery

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                      • Originally posted by laurentius
                        1080/60? You refer to a refresh rate here?
                        Yes, because 1080p/30 is really no different from 1080i/60.
                        "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
                        Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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                        • oh really !?
                          Que l’Univers n’est qu’un défaut dans la pureté de Non-être.

                          - Paul Valery

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                          • why are you bringin refresh rates into this debate anyway. All you need to think about is the contrast ansd WASTE TIME.
                            Que l’Univers n’est qu’un défaut dans la pureté de Non-être.

                            - Paul Valery

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                            • Do you understand the difference between 1080i/60 (what most TVs and Xbox/Xbox360 support) and 1080p (which nothing supports yet)?
                              "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
                              Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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                              • the 1080i is crap and we both know it. please dont take me for an idiot.
                                Que l’Univers n’est qu’un défaut dans la pureté de Non-être.

                                - Paul Valery

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