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  • #76
    Originally posted by Zylka
    Nothing entirely unfair. It's just the general culture of customer service that seems to reside within any facet of Apple operations that's just so pathetic, and dare I say "arrogant". Arrogant being a loosely applied description in that true arrogance only resonates with effect when a company has more than the rabid backing of closeminded lemmings to justify it.

    ie.) When coming back to the Apple store with my non functioning iPod mini, this *ing over the hill dweeb who couldn't make more of himself in life than "Apple sales clerk" responded in quite an irritated and condescending manner on how I have to send it in for repairs myself. Regardless of whether or not I'm the ten billionth person who walks in there unknowing that I have to send a defective unit in at my own shipping cost, I don't want to EVER be talked to like that by a business that I HAD JUST MADE PURCHASE FROM. Aside from which, all apologies for not being hooked up to "Apple fan mail" and the hip, applevine up-to-dates on why the survival of Microsoft pity can't manufacture durable products. [Let alone offer a commercially responsible warranty to rectify problems ensuing from such]

    Point in case number 2 was annoying enough in itself to provoke hatred of the company and an unwillingness to consider them for laptop purchase coming this fall. I had phoned technical service up in query of repairing my now unresponding iMini. My choices here consisted of either sending the unit in at my own ~50$ shipping fee for replacement, or the $69.95 warranty upgrade and fixture which seemed the reitorating theme in their "service" strategy.

    I quite politely asked to be directed to customer service, only to be pausingly asked "what concern I'd be sharing with them there". Apparently I'm not allowed to contact customer service without T.S. first compiling and approving a case file on my behalf.

    I continue with the same operator on how I'm not all too keen to be sending in a deffective unit at considerable cost only to be sent the same product after however many weeks of waiting. Yet I would see some gain in the entire transaction, if, say, I send the unit in on my own shipping costs, though rather for a deductable on a newer unit like the nano or iPod30g. They would be sending me an entirely NEW iMini as "repair" for the old, so it's not like a procedural step would be missed here other than my forking over additional $$$ for a different boxed unit.

    Never got through to customer service, and was only reitorated the option of face replacement after customer bared shipping, or face replacement after the traditional corporate moneymaker of warranty "upgrade"

    From there I tried to "raise hell", but was feeling too nice a person to actually start screaming into the reciever and calling the operator the dork piece of **** he was. Lesson learned on passive complaint, as dork boy actually laughed in response to my calm and pointed reasoning on why I wasn't happy with the options available.

    And now.. aside from all the above.. As much as I like certain posters in the OT forum, especially the Canadian ones.. "Some" of them really seem to embody, by example, the near zealot like ignorance that Apple fanatics are so claimed for. This thread has done wonders in underscoring how the iconic legend of Apple has so overbaringly used the certain "fervour" of fanbase as crutch to survive
    Either you must have done something wrong, or that guy really needs to be fired.

    Apple usually sends you a box to ship it in, and pays for all shipping and repairs in the six months. More if you buy AppleCare (in which case they often give you a free upgrade if a replacement is needed).

    You'll have to pay shipping if it is over six months old. Or you could just take it into the Apple Store if there is one near you (for free tech help). If you buy AppleCare, you basically have absolute insurance on the iPod and will usually get it replaced for nothing if the problems are serious enough.

    You have one year to decide if you want to buy AppleCare.



    And, I bought a new Dual Core Mac a couple of days ago. It died after I did a software update, so I took it back and they gave me a new one right there. And they kept the helpdesk open past closing time just so I could try out the new one and make sure I was absolutely happy with it.

    Absolutely terrible service.

    And Apple is consistently voted the best computer company for customer service, so they must be doing something right.
    Only feebs vote.

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    • #77
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      Last edited by Nostromo; April 1, 2006, 11:39.
      Let us be lazy in everything, except in loving and drinking, except in being lazy – Lessing

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      • #78
        And, I bought a new Dual Core Mac a couple of days ago. It died after I did a software update
        That's quality hardware and software right there if a software update FUBARs your system bad enough to RMA it.

        Apple's quality is ****. Apple's service is ****. Apple's reality distortion field is powerful.
        "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
        Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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        • #79
          That's quality hardware and software right there if a software update FUBARs your system bad enough to RMA it.

          Apple's quality is ****. Apple's service is ****. Apple's reality distortion field is powerful.


          Why don't you sod off back to Counterglow? You have nothing to contribute here.
          Only feebs vote.

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          • #80
            Originally posted by Agathon
            That's quality hardware and software right there if a software update FUBARs your system bad enough to RMA it.

            Apple's quality is ****. Apple's service is ****. Apple's reality distortion field is powerful.


            Why don't you sod off back to Counterglow? You have nothing to contribute here.
            agathon: the other side of the coin
            "I hope I get to punch you in the face one day" - MRT144, Imran Siddiqui
            'I'm fairly certain that a ban on me punching you in the face is not a "right" worth respecting." - loinburger

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            • #81
              Originally posted by Agathon
              Why don't you sod off back to Counterglow? You have nothing to contribute here.
              because he behaves the same way over there.
              I wasn't born with enough middle fingers.
              [Brandon Roderick? You mean Brock's Toadie?][Hanged from Yggdrasil]

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              • #82
                Originally posted by self biased

                because he behaves the same way over there.
                Lord....
                Only feebs vote.

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                • #83
                  it's kind of funny to see him lash out without any sort of thought, much like the apparent idolatry of some mac users. it's become as trendy these days to hate apple as it is to have an Ipod. imagine if it were as cool to hate ******s as much as asher hates apple...
                  I wasn't born with enough middle fingers.
                  [Brandon Roderick? You mean Brock's Toadie?][Hanged from Yggdrasil]

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                  • #84
                    Originally posted by Oerdin
                    I honestly am shocked that any company would force people to pay to ship a defective product back to the manufacturer. My office gives all of us scientists Dell laptops to use in the field (well, the big whigs get nicer laptops but we peons get stuck with the Dells) and their service has been excellent. One of my co-workers (an environmental scientist) actually dropped his laptop into a pond while taking water samples thus shorting it out. Dell paid to have UPS show up at the job site at the end fo the day to pick up the broken laptop then had a brand new laptop mailed to his hotel with in 72 hours. The extended warrenty the company bought covered the total replacement costs. Not bad at all.
                    you said it yourself, the company had bought an extended warranty; something Zylka didn't do with his iPod.
                    In Soviet Russia, Fake borises YOU.

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                    • #85
                      The standard warrenty covered only 6 months (but did include shipping) while the company bought the extended warrenty to cover everything for 2 years. Since they got a package deal to cover some 80-100 computers I'd say they got their money's worth.

                      That said the standard Dell warrenty does cover everything for the 6 months you have it even shipping.
                      Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.

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                      • #86
                        Originally posted by self biased
                        it's kind of funny to see him lash out without any sort of thought, much like the apparent idolatry of some mac users. it's become as trendy these days to hate apple as it is to have an Ipod. imagine if it were as cool to hate ******s as much as asher hates apple...
                        idealogues never think they are ones
                        "I hope I get to punch you in the face one day" - MRT144, Imran Siddiqui
                        'I'm fairly certain that a ban on me punching you in the face is not a "right" worth respecting." - loinburger

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                        • #87
                          Originally posted by self biased
                          it's kind of funny to see him lash out without any sort of thought, much like the apparent idolatry of some mac users. it's become as trendy these days to hate apple as it is to have an Ipod. imagine if it were as cool to hate ******s as much as asher hates apple...
                          I've had problems with Apple long before it was trendy. Consider me a trend-setter.

                          And I put a lot of thought into my lashing out, there is a solid basis for it. I've shared this basis many times.

                          Agathon, on the other hand, is incapable of applying thought. He doesn't think it's a problem if your brand new computer dies a couple days after you bought it due to a software update.

                          I've been willing to test the waters to see if my opinions still hold true -- I bought an iPod with Video and I do regret it, for instance. I made the mistake of thinking if everyone was raving about how good they were, they would be good...instead what I got was an interesting insight into social psycholoy and the concept of justification of effort.

                          And you're a bit old to be painting your toenails and typing in italics. We get it, you're different, move on.
                          "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
                          Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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                          • #88
                            thanks for making me feel special, asher.
                            I wasn't born with enough middle fingers.
                            [Brandon Roderick? You mean Brock's Toadie?][Hanged from Yggdrasil]

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                            • #89
                              my ipod stopped charging music from my computer, so I brought it into the store, and they fixed it for free.
                              "Everything for the State, nothing against the State, nothing outside the State" - Benito Mussolini

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                              • #90
                                Originally posted by self biased
                                thanks for making me feel special, asher.
                                It's obviously what you're looking for.
                                "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
                                Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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