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  • #166
    Originally posted by Wycoff
    Yeah, it could get real interesting. I assume that most 3rd world countries (and possibly some advanced countries) would empty their prisons and mental asylums and send them to the states (why pay to take care of them when you can send them into the wide open U.S.A.?)
    By the way the whole "mental asylums" thing always cracks me up since we were a nation founded by crazy nutso coo-coo persons.

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    • #167
      Originally posted by Zkribbler


      By the way the whole "mental asylums" thing always cracks me up since we were a nation founded by crazy nutso coo-coo persons.
      I thought that was Australia.

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      • #168
        On balance, the contributions made by all immigrants, legal and illegal, far outweigh what is taken in return, especially when you wait one for two generations for them to assimilate.
        It is amazing how this retarded fallacy, so obviously so, continues to haunt people who I honestly believe know better.

        And these immigrants just didn't do bad things like work at Jack in the Box, they murdered whole groups of people and took their land.
        Awesome logic Ted, as has already been pointed out. So you won't mind if I start rolling over fence jumpers with tanks then, since it is all the same to you.
        "The DPRK is still in a state of war with the U.S. It's called a black out." - Che explaining why orbital nightime pictures of NK show few lights. Seriously.

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        • #169
          Originally posted by Jac de Molay

          With the billions that have been spent, we could have easily built infrastructure, schools, etc. to legitimize and support them, and have millions of new taxpayers on the rolls to boot. Or do we continue throwing money, resources, and time down the sinkhole?
          What is your estimate of the cost to provide citizen services for the 11 million illegal immigrants already here? I guarantee you that it makes the amount spent on border security and immigration law enforcement look like peanuts.

          Originally posted by Jac de Molay

          As for any doomsday scenarios, a lot of that same stuff was spouted around back around the turn of the century when another huge wave of immigrants came. The first one, maybe two generations, struggled then they assimilated, life went on, and the world didn't tilt on its axis.
          One big difference is that this recent spike in immigration is largely illegal and largely from one ethnic group. This means that we can't easily cut off the flow the minute we decide we've had enough, and it also means that it will take longer than 1-2 generations to assimilate these newcomers as they can form large ghettos which are constantly being topped off by the latest arrivals.
          He's got the Midas touch.
          But he touched it too much!
          Hey Goldmember, Hey Goldmember!

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          • #170
            Originally posted by Zkribbler

            By the way the whole "mental asylums" thing always cracks me up since we were a nation founded by crazy nutso coo-coo persons.
            Imagine the Cuban boat people crime wave writ large for some wonderful yuks.
            He's got the Midas touch.
            But he touched it too much!
            Hey Goldmember, Hey Goldmember!

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            • #171
              Originally posted by Seeker
              It's frustrating how the, IMO, real issue, which is improving and harmonizing wages and regulations around the world, gets lost in nationalistic crap.
              Dude, you're on crack. There's no way in hell I want our wages "normalized" to the level of the French!
              I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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              • #172
                Originally posted by DanS


                Dude, you're on crack. There's no way in hell I want our wages "normalized" to the level of the French!
                He's talking about bringing the peon wages and absymal working condictions found in third-world countries UP.

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                • #173
                  Which, like it or not, would correspond with bringing the wages in 1st world countries (the USA and France alike) down. Way down. There are how many of us (rich people in the developed world) and how many of them?

                  Over a long period of time, maybe it can happen. A loooooong period of time. The faster it happens, the more disruptive & painful it would be.

                  "We are not without accomplishment. We have managed to distribute poverty equally." - Nguyen Co Thatch, Vietnamese foreign minister

                  -Arrian
                  grog want tank...Grog Want Tank... GROG WANT TANK!

                  The trick isn't to break some eggs to make an omelette, it's convincing the eggs to break themselves in order to aspire to omelettehood.

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                  • #174
                    Originally posted by Arrian
                    Which, like it or not, would correspond with bringing the wages in 1st world countries (the USA and France alike) down. Way down. There are how many of us (rich people in the developed world) and how many of them?
                    This has been happening since Ross Perot's prediction of a large sucking sound. He got the direction wrong -- He shudda said "across the Pacific," not south.

                    Over a long period of time, maybe it can happen. A loooooong period of time. The faster it happens, the more disruptive & painful it would be.
                    But if we don't start bringing third-world salaries up, that just means our salaries have farther to fall. Besides, higher salaries overseas mean more consumers overseas.

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                    • #175
                      please ignore the following post.

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                      • #176
                        it's always good to quote yourself

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