Sunnis Hit After Shiite Shrine Blast

[Imran Siddiqui]

Originally posted by Oerdin
BTW I've seen this "golden mosque" from the outside and I wasn't to impressed. It looked gaudy and not to well put together. The spiral minaret of Samarra was more impressive but still didn't look like it amounted to any great wonder. Certainly the pyramids of Egypt or Mexico were greater and built long before though I guess if you have nothing else then you play up what you do have.

Did you think this masjid was venerated because of the architechture? Could it perhaps have been because the 10th and 11th awaited Imams of the Shi'ite religion were both buried there?

[SlowwHand]

Sloww - I'm curious how you think the situation would be different if Clinton decided to invade in, say, 1996 (or pick any other year you like).

I wish people would quit saying invasion. We were under the provisions of a cease fire, not a peace treaty.
Had Clinton sent the message that it wouldn't be tolerated, domino effect. Doing, or more to the point, NOT doing, bad precedent was set.

If Bush has lost even a Texas red neck like Slowwhand...

He hasn't lost me, I'm rapidly losing my compassion for the Iraqi population. If they would get involved more, and more quickly, we'd have been gone.

And Mobius, blow me. OUR policies, since your wimpass refuses to take any responsibility as a leading nation, was to oust Hussein. Like I just said.
Don't like it? Tough stuff. The man is out, and now we need to be gone.

The fact is, Bush is showing a lot more compassion and faith in Iraq than I am. It;s their stick pit, let them have it. Someone else like Hussein takes over, fine. The people had their chance given them.

[Kontiki]

Originally posted by SlowwHand
I wish people would quit saying invasion. We were under the provisions of a cease fire, not a peace treaty.
Had Clinton sent the message that it wouldn't be tolerated, domino effect. Doing, or more to the point, NOT doing, bad precedent was set.

That's nice. It doesn't really address the question of what should have been done, though. What did Clinton not do? Or, more to the point, what should he have done? I'm looking for something more specific than "something" or "nothing".

[Imran Siddiqui]

I wish people would quit saying invasion.

We invaded. We entered by force and intended to occupy. What else do you need?

[Dinner]

BTW this shrine isn't ancient and instead is a modern construction. It's still bad but at least nothing historic was destroyed.

http://www.time.com/time/photoessays/2006/shiite_mosque_bombing/

Just look at all the rebar and concrete in the construction. It is certainly a modern building.

[Dinner]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui

Did you think this masjid was venerated because of the architechture? Could it perhaps have been because the 10th and 11th awaited Imams of the Shi'ite religion were both buried there?

I know exactly why it was built. I was explaining my personal impressions of what it looked like.

[Last Conformist]

Originally posted by SlowwHand


I wish people would quit saying invasion. We were under the provisions of a cease fire, not a peace treaty.

Is it just me, or does Newspeak and Bush support seem to go together?

[The Emperor Fabulous]

Originally posted by Oerdin
BTW this shrine isn't ancient and instead is a modern construction. It's still bad but at least nothing historic was destroyed.

http://www.time.com/time/photoessays/2006/shiite_mosque_bombing/

Just look at all the rebar and concrete in the construction. It is certainly a modern building.

sigh

The Al Askari Mosque or Al Askari Shrine is a Shiite Muslim holy site located in the Iraqi city of Samarra. It is one of the most important Shiite mosques in the world, built in 944. The remains of the tenth and eleventh Shia Imams, Ali al-Hadi and his son Hassan al-Askari rest at the mosque, and it also contains a shrine to the twelfth, or hidden Imam, Muhammad al-Mahdi. The site is also known as the shrine of Ali al-Hadi, or the al-Hadhrah al-Askariyah.

Wikipedia

[Last Conformist]

1€ says it's been destroyed, rebuilt, and renovated quite a few times since.

[BlackCat]

Originally posted by The Emperor Fabulous


sigh



Wikipedia

http://lexicorient.com/e.o/samarra.htm

1905: The golden dome of the sanctuary of the two imams is completed.

The mosque is old, but the golden dome isn't, and it's that that are referred to when it's said it's "new".

Sigh. Wiki isn't nessecarily all that is worth to know

[Elok]

Well, they've switched back to killing each other, for now. Temporary respite and regrouping period. Not that Bush will use it wisely.

[Zkribbler]

Originally posted by Oerdin
BTW I've seen this "golden mosque" from the outside and I wasn't to impressed. It looked gaudy and not to well put together. The spiral minaret of Samarra was more impressive but still didn't look like it amounted to any great wonder. Certainly the pyramids of Egypt or Mexico were greater and built long before though I guess if you have nothing else then you play up what you do have.

But it is incredibly holy to Shi'ites.

[Zkribbler]

CNN.com has a interesting piece of speculation. They think it was an al Qaeda attack.

[Lawrence of Arabia]

the kurds should cut an run and make their own state northern iraq. they're the only ones who arnt downright crazy.

[Lawrence of Arabia]

and turkey would not roll in tanks because they kinda wanna join the eu.