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  • #91
    Originally posted by Arrian


    I think the more relevant question is, how large a percentage of sexual assaults are prevented by this practice.


    Impossible to ever determine. You can't really track a stat of something that does not occur. If you track the overall rate, there are so many other possible reasons that the rate can fluctuate...

    -Arrian
    So the rational argument for upholding the practice would be..?

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    • #92
      Originally posted by Kataphraktoi


      I see that ''only a parent can have'' line used with alot of stuff, normally because the person know they cant win the argument logically and instead try to remove or damage the source of the oposing argument.
      So wanting to protect your children and family by being aware of nearby dangers is illogical? I see.
      ...people like to cry a lot... - Pekka
      ...we just argue without evidence, secure in our own superiority. - Snotty

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      • #93
        Originally posted by Kataphraktoi


        Many sexual offences are over-rated in general-per all the convictions\convictees i have ever been witness to.
        How many have you been witness to?

        Many of them were bad, but some were plain frivolous. I also have little faith in the justice system and would need more than a judge's statement about somebody to make my mind up about him. These charges also stay on a persons record for life even after paying time in jail\service or what have you, and continue to penalize a person after the fact.
        From what I have seen on these sites, most of the offenders listed have more than just sex offenses on their rap sheet.

        Just because the information was there prevoiusly does not mean you need to unite it all in one big witch hunt list for people to misuse.
        Can you give me some examples of instances in which the information on sites such as these was abused?
        ...people like to cry a lot... - Pekka
        ...we just argue without evidence, secure in our own superiority. - Snotty

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        • #94
          Originally posted by SpencerH


          One has to do both, teach about general threats, but also actively defend against more specific threats. I would suggest that having a pedophile living next door to your children is a specific threat warranting different behaviour than simply knowing that such scum exist 'out there'.
          I understand your point but it seems if the child is protected with general knowledge/tactics the specific threat has been dealt with.

          If you want to inform them of the monster next door you will have other issues to deal with (ie fear).
          "I have never killed a man, but I have read many obituaries with great pleasure." - Clarence Darrow
          "I didn't attend the funeral, but I sent a nice letter saying I approved of it." - Mark Twain

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          • #95
            Originally posted by Caligastia
            Yes. When it comes to protecting children I think the opinions of parents count more than those of non-parents.
            Like I said, that's a ridiculous position. Once your first child is born, you automatically gain some miraculous insight into certain subjects that no other human being will ever achieve unless they sumbit to the breeding expectations of you and your peers?

            Do you reciprocally lose the ability to hold a sound opinion on the value of contraception and family planning?

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            • #96
              If you want to inform them of the monster next door you will have other issues to deal with (ie fear).
              It's more likely that a parent would simply be extra vigilant about their kid's contact with the person next door. And that's wrong, how?

              -Arrian
              grog want tank...Grog Want Tank... GROG WANT TANK!

              The trick isn't to break some eggs to make an omelette, it's convincing the eggs to break themselves in order to aspire to omelettehood.

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              • #97
                Winston, teh Reagan would've loved this website.

                Why do you hate zombie Reagan?

                -Arrian
                grog want tank...Grog Want Tank... GROG WANT TANK!

                The trick isn't to break some eggs to make an omelette, it's convincing the eggs to break themselves in order to aspire to omelettehood.

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                • #98
                  Originally posted by Arrian


                  It's more likely that a parent would simply be extra vigilant about their kid's contact with the person next door. And that's wrong, how?

                  -Arrian
                  No problem. Let the kid spend some quality time with the unreported perv on the other side.
                  "I have never killed a man, but I have read many obituaries with great pleasure." - Clarence Darrow
                  "I didn't attend the funeral, but I sent a nice letter saying I approved of it." - Mark Twain

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                  • #99
                    Originally posted by Winston


                    Like I said, that's a ridiculous position. Once your first child is born, you automatically gain some miraculous insight into certain subjects that no other human being will ever achieve unless they sumbit to the breeding expectations of you and your peers?
                    There's nothing ridiculous about it at all. Unless you think the experience of having children has nothing to teach. To me, that is the absurd position.
                    ...people like to cry a lot... - Pekka
                    ...we just argue without evidence, secure in our own superiority. - Snotty

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                    • nevermind.
                      grog want tank...Grog Want Tank... GROG WANT TANK!

                      The trick isn't to break some eggs to make an omelette, it's convincing the eggs to break themselves in order to aspire to omelettehood.

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                      • Originally posted by Oerdin


                        They define offender so broadly that a 16 year old having a 14 year old girlfriend makes him a sex offender who must continue to register for the rest of his life. Sad really.
                        My 14-year-old cousin has a 16-year-old boyfriend .

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                        • So do many kids that age
                          if you want to stop terrorism; stop participating in it

                          ''Oh,Commissar,if we could put the potatoes in one pile,they would reach the foot of God''.But,replied the commissar,''This is the Soviet Union.There is no God''.''Thats all right'' said the worker,''There are no potatoes''

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                          • Originally posted by Caligastia


                            So wanting to protect your children and family by being aware of nearby dangers is illogical? I see.
                            Its when you cant logicaly win the argument when you turn to the ''you wouldnt understand'' argument.

                            And further discussion with you, as i dont have children, is therefore useless. I imagine taking care of somebody else's dosnt count in the least?
                            if you want to stop terrorism; stop participating in it

                            ''Oh,Commissar,if we could put the potatoes in one pile,they would reach the foot of God''.But,replied the commissar,''This is the Soviet Union.There is no God''.''Thats all right'' said the worker,''There are no potatoes''

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                            • My logical argument is that sites like these help parents protect their children and themselves from potential nearby threats. I haven't seen any rebuttal that makes sense yet.
                              ...people like to cry a lot... - Pekka
                              ...we just argue without evidence, secure in our own superiority. - Snotty

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                              • Then you must have overlooked my question as to the rational argument for a practice that has no measurable effect on the prevention of sexual offenses.

                                And why do you keep insisting on the "child protection" aspect of it? I thought we agreed that sexual offenses are equally severe whether the victim is an adult or not?

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