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Well Propaganda disputes all the purges and killings. He probably won't dispute ending the NEP. And it was important in turning Stalin into an absolute dictator. He took complete control of the economy... and in order to do so killed Ukrainians. Also if you have total control of the economy, chances are you don't allow a free democratic process.
Basically, from that innocuous statement, comes a whole host of 'undemocratic' actions.
Unfortunately, I don't see the world in black and white as you do.
The USSR, at that time, was underdoing a revolutionary transformation, even after Stalin's death, and as you know, revolutions aren't just bread and butter; they are always bloody affairs...you know, like the French and American Revolutions? But I digress. There's no point in quibbling over semantics, now, don't you think so?
And, please, don't put words in my mouth. I have never stated or implied that I dispute the "purges", but only in the manner and circumstances they were concluded.
Anyway, here's a list of recommended reading for all of you to view at your own leisure. Perhaps this may interest you. Enjoy.
And, please, don't put words in my mouth. I have never stated or implied that I dispute the "purges", but only in the manner and circumstances they were concluded.
He butched people for a noble cause
“I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
- John 13:34-35 (NRSV)
It's all lies! Lies, I tell you! Forgeries! It was the CIA!
-Arrian
You'd be amazed how often this works. The Chinese are doing that with Mao right now. Decades of propaganda build on one another until an absolute butcher becomes this good intentioned saint who was just caught up in the circumstances.
And, please, don't put words in my mouth. I have never stated or implied that I dispute the "purges", but only in the manner and circumstances they were concluded.
Well... Stalin was too late for that. Catherine already beat him to it. Though I'm sure Comrade Stalin would have butchered people for the right .
“I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
- John 13:34-35 (NRSV)
Well, West Germany and France were in the way, and they were protected by nukes.
So Stalin did the next best thing and slaughtered people in his own country! Ukraine? Too many people there.
“I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
- John 13:34-35 (NRSV)
"And so, my fellow Americans: ask not what your country can do for you—ask what you can do for your country. My fellow citizens of the world: ask not what America will do for you, but what together we can do for the freedom of man." -- JFK Inaugural, 1961
"Extremism in the defense of liberty is not a vice." -- Barry Goldwater, 1964 GOP Nomination acceptance speech (not George W. Bush 40 years later...)
2004 Presidential Candidate
2008 Presidential Candidate (for what its worth)
If Stalin was increasingly trying to make things more democratic, then why did the state film system become more and more controlled each year? Under the NEP, you could have idiosyncratic, formalist films that were actually good, but then in 1932 socialist realism became the ONLY ALLOWABLE FILM ART. No democracy would state that there was only one allowable film art. Furthermore, films would be screened for Stalin and he would give comments on them, and these comments would be acted out on. As Stalinism continued to grow, films became ever more hagiographies of Stalin himself. I've SEEN The fall of berlin, both part 1 and part 2. I KNOW what films the Soviet Union was producing at the time and they were not indicative of a society growing more democratic but rather more totalitarian.
Stalin had absolute power - he could've had democracy anytime he wanted. But for him that could never have been an option.
"mono has crazy flow and can rhyme words that shouldn't, like Eminem"
Drake Tungsten
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Albert Speer
Originally posted by Wycoff
It'd be like a German choosing Hitler as their favorite figure in German history. Baffling.
Look, guys, I'm not saying Hitler was a saint or so, but he had a cute little moustache and built the Autobahn!
Germany, at that time, was underdoing a fundamental transformation, and as you know, these things aren't just bread and butter; they are always bloody affairs...you know, like the French and American Revolutions? But I digress. There's no point in quibbling over semantics, now, don't you think so?
And I don't dispute that mistakes were made under Hitler's rule, but hey, we're all humans, so who are we to judge?
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