I saw Brokeback Mountain tonight.

[MrFun]

Originally posted by Sprayber



ding ding ding ding. You got it right

I should be given a permanently free Apolyton subscriber account for this.

[Winston]

Originally posted by MrFun

Ok -- I will allow you two days for snickering but after that, I will tie you up and force feed you spoiled, canned spinach if you continue after the two days.

Deal!

But no telling of jokes during the force feeding, I absolutely cannot go back on that!

[Dis]

Originally posted by MrFun


That's strange -- when I saw Brokeback Mountain with my friend (who is gay as well) I had the impression that we were in the minority, and that most of the people watching it with us were straight -- some were women, but there were straight men there too.

Although, I should note that most of the straight men who were there seem to have been with a girlfriend, fiancee, or wife. Maybe they dragged their man out to see it?

they are probably closet gays. even the married ones.

[molly bloom]

Originally posted by Winston
Ah, the bias toward gays, yes that must be it.

It could never be that I'm just not interested in the subject covered by the film -

Err, when the capote anglais fits, wear it.

You chose to categorize the film as 'gay people's personal problems', did you not ?

Had you bothered to read a plot synopsis or a review, or indeed the original novella that is the film's source, you would have known that the film decidedly wasn't about: 'gay people's personal problems', in the same way that say 'Guess Who's Coming To Dinner?', 'Jungle Fever' and 'Far From Heaven' aren't about 'heterosexual people's personal problems'.

See, you've already decided what you think the film is 'about'- mistakenly, I might add.

Once:

..to pay for investigating gay people's personal problems.

Winnie Mucca in Nevada

Twice:

Really? Well, I'll stick with my intuition and let stand my comments,

Winnie Womanly Intuition

Thrice:

Some things you give a damn about, others, like gay dramas playing in the theatre in perfect accordance with the mainstream ephemeral interest in these matters, you browse over.

Next could well be a feature documentary on the troubles of suffering from breast cancer.

Winnie Won't Go

'Gay' seems to be the link between these objections.

Though not, as you claim, by "comparing" it with a documentary on breast cancer.

Winnie Mistaken

So you did therefore compare it with a documentary on breast cancer- as being a type of film which you would be unlikely to go and see.

Unlike you, I do not season my posts with red herrings...

And you'll have to pardon me, you still appear to have a hard time accepting that others just can't muster enough interest to go watch Brokeback Mountain.

No, just with their lack of honesty as to their motives.

See you deny that you show or have:

the bias toward gays, yes that must be it.

Yet, despite not having seen the film, read the story or even appeared to have glanced at any reviews, you'd already decided that the film was solely about, how did you put it ?

gay people's personal problems.

which you kindly emphasised for us in case we missed it :

Well, I'll stick with my intuition and let stand my comments

or that it was akin to:

gay dramas playing in the theatre

Well now:

"if you don't go see this movie, you're just perpetuating the awful and unfair treatment of gay people in the world today"-routine that lies implicitly in a number of posts to this thread.

No one said that. When in doubt, put things in people's mouths that they neither said nor meant, eh ?

Tsk tsk.

[Winston]

You must really care about me, molly. I've never been quoted so much in my life, at least not without the poster actually going somewhere with it..

[molly bloom]

Originally posted by Winston
You must really care about me, molly. I've never been quoted so much in my life, at least not without the poster actually going somewhere with it..

I care about accuracy and honesty- as should we all.

[Alinestra Covelia]

Yes, this movie is definitely one to bring the tissue box along for.


...


You know what I mean.

[lord of the mark]

Reasons not to see the film

1. Unlike many here who say they dont want to see it (i wont name names) ive actually READ the Annie Proulx story it was based on (yup, some folks actually do read the New Yorker) and I wasnt overwhelmed. Whether that was due to subtle homophobia, I really cant say.

2. Its a romance tearjerker. If these were straights, we'd say right out it was a chickflick. Not that I would never see one, but I have my quota.

3. The redeeming aspect of straight chick flicks, is that it least involves some nice scenes of a nice looking actress. I mean Bridges of Madison County was torture to sit through, but would have been far worse without Meryl Streep. In this film, the women are not central to the romance.

Reasons to see the film

1. QOTM wants to see it. See 2 above.

2. All that mis en scene, ang lee sh*t that MB mentioned. I mean maybe it really IS better than the Proulx story.

OTOH Id rather see Rent. That has some nice sounding music, and some nice actresses.

And I really like musicals. Oops, shouldnt have said that. Runs away.

[Az]

Originally posted by Alinestra Covelia
Yes, this movie is definitely one to bring the tissue box along for.


...


You know what I mean.

[molly bloom]

Originally posted by Az

Az- you never answer your e-mails, and your p.m. box is still full !!!!

Good to see you're still with us, however.

All that mis en scene, ang lee sh*t

Wassup wid dat, l.o.t.m. ?


Is you down wit' yo' homies on the street- shi' yeah, I sho'nuff know where youse be comin' from.

[lord of the mark]

Now Twilight of the Golds, whose main character was gay, and which touched on issues of homophobia, bioethics, etc, and which was funny, and thought provoking, (and didnt feature men kissing - the main characters boyfriend was never on stage) was pretty damned good I thought. And in fact was pretty emotionally stirring too.

Id like to think that the fact it was about an upper middle class Jewish family in New York did not UNDULY sway my reaction. But I dont think its unfair to say that this had better be damned good to get me interested in inarticulate cowboys. Again, that was part of the problem of I had with the Proulx story.

[Az]

Az- you never answer your e-mails, and your p.m. box is still full !!!!

Good to see you're still with us, however.

Oh, sorry molly.

And yes, I am still around, but the date is set. late march I swing by the base and pick up uniforms, finish my tests, and mid april I return to service. Mixed feelings abound.

[molly bloom]

Originally posted by Az

Az- you never answer your e-mails, and your p.m. box is still full !!!!

Good to see you're still with us, however.

Oh, sorry molly.

And yes, I am still around, but the date is set. late march I swing by the base and pick up uniforms, finish my tests, and mid april I return to service. Mixed feelings abound.

Mmm.... all hot photos in army gear appreciated !!!

Seriously- best wishes, mazel tov, and so on.

Re: email - aimez-vous Bjork, tovarisch ?

[Winston]

Speaking of which, lord of the mark could really do with checking his PM box..

[lord of the mark]

Originally posted by molly bloom




Wassup wid dat, l.o.t.m. ?


Is you down wit' yo' homies on the street- shi' yeah, I sho'nuff know where youse be comin' from.

sometime i forget to be sufficiently reverent about Culchuh. Cause Ive been away from New England too long, ya know? Now you want people who are serious about all that culchuh, and where the straight men all want to go see this film, to show theyre superior to all the homophobes, youve got to go to a part of the USA that was settled by Puritans. Since I live in a part that was settled by Anglicans (allbeit low church Anglicans) Ive forgotten how to be part of the "elect"

Have a happy