US bombs Pakistan

[techumseh]

Hey, they're only here to help. http://observer.guardian.co.uk/world...686918,00.html

[MOBIUS]

Yep, a nation that illegally strikes another nation's territory with callous impunity killing women and children, and almost has twice as many nuclear weapons than the rest of the world put together has the temerity to claim Iran is a rogue nation for seeking Nuclear power...

[chequita guevara]

The Northwest Frontier is full of Taliban and Al Qaeda. The people up there are sympathyzers with the enemy and are aiding and abetting them.

Yeah, it sucks the info was wrong and we killed non-combatants. Someone should get in trouble for that. But don't act like we have no biz bombing these ****ers.

[alva]

The people up there are sympathyzers with the enemy and are aiding and abetting them.

Like they really have any choice.
Like this is going to help to "convert" them, I wonder with whom they will sympathyse now and many more will.

[techumseh]

Now Americans have announced they are going to take DNA samples from those killed in the attack, in an attempt to determine if they actually hit someone they wanted to. Yet, according to Muslim law, the victims were buried almost immediately. So I guess the US will go in and dig up the bodies, take DNA samples without the permission of grieving relatives, and leave. All part of the struggle for the "hearts and minds".

[techumseh]

Originally posted by chegitz guevara
The Northwest Frontier is full of Taliban and Al Qaeda. The people up there are sympathyzers with the enemy and are aiding and abetting them.

Yeah, it sucks the info was wrong and we killed non-combatants. Someone should get in trouble for that. But don't act like we have no biz bombing these ****ers.

So, have you now completely abandoned your socialist views?

[Dinner]

Originally posted by MOBIUS
Yep, a nation that illegally strikes another nation's territory with callous impunity killing women and children, and almost has twice as many nuclear weapons than the rest of the world put together has the temerity to claim Iran is a rogue nation for seeking Nuclear power...

Russia has far more nukes then anyone else.

[Pekka]

yeah but half of them works.

[MOBIUS]

Originally posted by chegitz guevara
The Northwest Frontier is full of Taliban and Al Qaeda. The people up there are sympathyzers with the enemy and are aiding and abetting them.

Yeah, it sucks the info was wrong and we killed non-combatants. Someone should get in trouble for that. But don't act like we have no biz bombing these ****ers.

Never thought I'd see the day that Che becomes a Bush apologist...

Maybe if Bush and his puppetmasters hadn't left the final assaults on Taliban and Al Qaeda positions on the Afghan/Pakistan border the people they're looking for now might have already been captured/killed?

Maybe the same would be true if at the very moment these organisations were on the back foot, the US decided not to be distracted by a nation innocent of the 9/11 attack and used some of those resources finishing the job they started out?

This was a hostile strike on another sovereign nation, seemingly without their consent. Indeed, there may have been US special forces on the ground which is expressly forbidden by the Pakistani govt - way to respect an ally...

So no, the US has no business bombing these ****ers!

Che the apologist of the deaths of innocent women and children - Che the hypocrite!

[MOBIUS]

Originally posted by Oerdin
Russia has far more nukes then anyone else.

Deliverable:

US 6,390

Russia 3,242

as at 1st Jan 2005

Those were the stats cited by The Independent newspaper in a recent article.

Also it is the US that has historically built the most warheads in the world

We estimate that since 1945, more than 128,000 nuclear warheads have been built worldwide--all but 2 percent of them by the United States (55 percent) and the Soviet Union or Russia (43 percent).

The United States has produced some 70,000 warheads since 1945.

http://www.thebulletin.org/article_nn.php?art_ofn=nd02norris

So who's rogue nuclear nation now then?

Iran who *might* be trying to build nuclear weapons

OR

The only nation ever to have used nuclear weapons in anger, had five times as many nukes as the USSR at the beginning of the Vietnam War, has built more nukes than the rest of the world put together and still has almost twice as many operational nukes than the rest of the World put together!!?

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by alva

The people up there are sympathyzers with the enemy and are aiding and abetting them.

Like they really have any choice.
Like this is going to help to "convert" them, I wonder with whom they will sympathyse now and many more will.

With the Pakistani government crawling all over the area, the people have lots of choice, The problem is that these reactionaries have been organizing in the region for 26 some odd years, with the active aid of the West and Gulf States (up until 9/11). They made a choice to side with the people who attacked us. Fvck 'em.

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by Oerdin


Russia has far more nukes then anyone else.

We have more nukes, they have more megatons. We go for many smaller bombs, they, fewer, bigger ones.

However, it's irrelevent to whether or not the U.S. is right to be fighting in Pakistan, which it is, unlike say, in Iraq.

[Pekka]

yeah. fook the innocent people. Typical communist solidarity. I hope Pakistan won't find any terrorists in Florida and send some missiles.. oh wait.. but they already did and they do crawl your neighbourhood. I hope you stay safe though. That's the difference, I care about the innocent. Even you.

[chequita guevara]

What innocent people? Non-combatants, yes. Innocent? I doubt it.

[Pekka]

Yes. Non-combatants. I never said if I agree this action was justified in my opinion or not. And yes, you didn't take any stand on that either. Just got that out of the way.

But when an operation goes bad, it goes bad, period. I think this got bad.