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Originally posted by Sava
If it's just ignorant America hating morons that are blind to what is really going on in that part of the world... then I don't care what those people think.
and remember, I'm a liberal who is a against the war in Iraq
Oh, we all know what's going on there. But that doesn't justify killing civillians. The goal doesn't always justify the means...
and you are horribly naive if you don't think that those people would not rush their own children back into those houses just to get their dead bodies on the news to try and get more hatred against America...
in their minds, their children are martyrs, dying for Islam... helping their cause...
Ah, so now it is established that those people used their children as a shield?? Or are you just trying to rationalise this **** up?
maybe if you understood the enemy that America was up against, you would really cut us some more slack...
Haha, I thought I knew the enemy you were up against. But then you decided to invade Iraq. So I wonder if you know who the real enemy is...
or maybe it would take some of your countrymen getting slaughtered in a terrorist attack for you to understand... one would hope that the victims of terrorism would not have to be from your country for you to care more about them... but honestly, people really do care more about their own kind, even if they say they care about all people.
Now tell me, you are trying to justify the killing of civillians so don't tell me who cares more about "their own kind".
or do you think that America deserved 9-11?
I sure hope not... but it wouldn't surprise me based upon your ignorant comments
I think I will that one go.
Within weeks they'll be re-opening the shipyards
And notifying the next of kin
Once again...
I love how Sava and Pekka have now established, through their crystal ball and against all likelihood, that if any children were killed it was because their parents deliberately put them in a missile's path.
I can see why Sava got pissed off at Democratic Underground. DU posters are ranting on how this is an neo-con conspiracy to piss off muslims so they have an excuse to keep starting wars. Tecumseh would probably fit right in there.
KH, DUDE! I never said anything how this happened. I was talking IN THEORY! In general. And I added, even if it would never happen, it's not THAT unreasonable to realize that it benefits the terrorists, and they are big in martyrdom.
Get the animal kaka out of your eyes
In da butt.
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I also said, that this operation got bad and criticized it. Fair and balanced
In da butt.
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yes. In theory, because I don't remember a situation where kids were used a shields per se.
In da butt.
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Huejj: I'm not trying to justify anything. I'm saying that this blind hatred of America is completely ignorant. The loss of lives of non-combatants is regretable and not intentional. It happens in war.
I find it sad and confusing that so many of America's "allies" seem to think that Islamic terrorists have more the moral high ground in this struggle.
And why are you saying "I" invaded Iraq? I didn't invade anything. I didn't even support the war. In fact, if you knew anything about my politics (which I don't see how you couldn't, considering how much I post here), you'd know I hate Bush and the Republican party. And to be perfectly frank... I'm going to put you on my ignore list pretty soon... your ignorant posts are really starting to bother me.
KH: I merely posed a number of scenarios that are much more likely than the "ZOMFG AMERICA EATS BABIES" attitude that most people in this thread seem to have. But if you want to completely misrepresent what I've said, be my guest. There certainly no shortage of ignorance from the America hating morons in this thread.
Why don't you go back into this thread and find me a claim of fact as ridiculous as the "they shoved their kids back into the path of the missiles" theory?
KH, No, what part of 'I'm not talkign about this incident in particular' you don't understand?
I was only replying to germanos' shaking head when Sava said he woulnd't be surprised if terrorists used kids as a shield.
I replied, that I don't think it's unreasonable thought, in general. I'm not talking about what happened in Pakistan with this incident.
And yes, I talked about this incident earlier in this thread.
Don't try to argue for arguings sake. You either accept that a scenario might come where terrorists will or have used kids as a shield or not.
I think it's not unreasonable to see it happening.
In da butt.
"Do not worry if others do not understand you. Instead worry if you do not understand others." - Confucius
THE UNDEFEATED SUPERCITIZEN w:4 t:2 l:1 (DON'T ASK!)
"God is dead" - Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" - God.
Originally posted by Pekka
I was only replying to germanos' shaking head when Sava said he woulnd't be surprised if terrorists used kids as a shield.
And germanos is right. The likelihood of that happening is much lower than the likelihood that the kids were simply in the wrong place at the wrong time.
Why clutter up this thread with moronic "theories"?
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