Phelps to picket Miners funerals

[DinoDoc]

Why is Shepherd so special?

[MrFun]

Let me know when you can come up with other examples of picketing funeral incidents, DD and I will be happy to use them in addition to Shepherd.

Or, maybe you can at least try to understand the concept that when one belongs to an ostracized minority group and then hears about such terrible attacks on his fellow members of that group, they tend to be concerned about their rights and their dignity as humans. That is one reason why I use Shepherd as an example -- what happened to him is relevant to me, and countless other gays across the world.

[Jaguar]

You're gay?

[MrFun]

You're obtuse?

[Elok]

Originally posted by lord of the mark
The what testament? You mean the Hebrew scriptures?

this relevant and not just a quibble, because the Jewish bible, as historically interpreted by Jews, does not necessarily say what you claim it does.

Well, in the context of this discussion, I'm not sure it does matter. From Phelps's POV, Jews should be seen (preparing to rebuild their temple so God can smite the Sodomites and spare evangelicals the effort), and not heard.

[Dr Strangelove]

Originally posted by MrFun
Let me know when you can come up with other examples of picketing funeral incidents, DD and I will be happy to use them in addition to Shepherd.

Or, maybe you can at least try to understand the concept that when one belongs to an ostracized minority group and then hears about such terrible attacks on his fellow members of that group, they tend to be concerned about their rights and their dignity as humans. That is one reason why I use Shepherd as an example -- what happened to him is relevant to me, and countless other gays across the world.

Several years ago a man named "Gay" walked into a gay bar in Roanoke, Virginia and started shooting people. He was upset because he had been picked on so often because of his last name. Several gay patrons died. Phelps and his crew made a trip all the way down here to picket the funerals of the victims. AFAIK no one assaulted them and there were no lawsuits.

I repeat my question. Does anyone know if Phelps or his group have ever won a lawsuit due to someone's response to his protests? There are many places in which the police might take his activities as disturbing the police and would arrest him. In these places he'd have a hard time succesfully sueing.

[Rufus T. Firefly]

Originally posted by MrFun
Let me know when you can come up with other examples of picketing funeral incidents, DD and I will be happy to use them in addition to Shepherd.

Well then by all means add:

- the funerals of various AIDS victims (this is what Phelps was doing before Shepherd)
- Barry Goldwater's funeral (I'm not making that up)
- the funerals of soldiers killed in Iraq
- the St. Patrick's Cathedral memorial service for the NYFD firemen who died on 9/11

and the one that really pissed me off:

- the Pittsburgh memorial service for Mr. Rogers

He's a real piece of work, isn't he?

[OzzyKP]

Originally posted by MrFun
It would be interesting to see if some of the same people who were indifferent, or even approved of the picketing of Shepherd's funeral in 1998, are much more appalled with this current picketing now that we're talking about twelve dead miners.

In both cases, the picketing is equally appalling.

Yea, I think people like Phelps actually do a great deal of good for gays, making those who hate them look absolutely, disgustingly absurd and hateful.

Just like how many people in the '60s were indifferent to racism, and it took Bull Connor to shake them out of it. Phelps, one can hope, is shaking everyone out of their indifference to anti-gay biggotry.

[Last Conformist]

I'm still disappointed that the King's legal counsel concluded they couldn't successfully sue him for anything.

[Lonestar]

Originally posted by MrFun



And here we have another example where two Christians disagree.

Muslims believe in the same God that Christians believe in -- I would NOT see the same disaster in same light that Lonestar might see it.


Unless Lonestar was sarcastic in this quoted post.

I just randomly picked Mecca. If a series of meteors struck a specific town over the course of, say, a month and nowhere else..yes, I would chalk it up to Divine Providence.


Either that or we're under attack by the Centauri. Oh Noes!

[Agathon]

Several years ago a man named "Gay" walked into a gay bar in Roanoke, Virginia and started shooting people. He was upset because he had been picked on so often because of his last name. Several gay patrons died.

You made that **** up dude...

Nice story though.

[MrFun]

Originally posted by Rufus T. Firefly


Well then by all means add:

- the funerals of various AIDS victims (this is what Phelps was doing before Shepherd)
- Barry Goldwater's funeral (I'm not making that up)
- the funerals of soldiers killed in Iraq
- the St. Patrick's Cathedral memorial service for the NYFD firemen who died on 9/11

and the one that really pissed me off:

- the Pittsburgh memorial service for Mr. Rogers

He's a real piece of work, isn't he?

sh!t

[Pekka]

Remember to gather all your friends to celebrate when Phelps' time comes. I'd say bring beers, bring your gay friends, soldiers, and just people who dont' like this dude. We'll see how they like it.

With signs 'HATERS BURN IN HELL!'

[Dr Strangelove]

Originally posted by Agathon


You made that **** up dude...

Nice story though.

NO! I most certainly did not!

[Imran Siddiqui]

I'm sure the reason Phelps protested at Goldwater's funeral is because Goldwater had said he didn't care if gays were in the military. Famously he stated that the only thing that mattered to him was if they could "shoot straight".