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  • #61
    Indiana is working on a law to make this sort of thing into a D Felony.

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    • #62
      I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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      • #63
        Originally posted by Berzerker
        Are you leaving open the possibility some disasters are God's wrath? The OT would support that, so aren't Christians left in the position of deciding which disasters were sent by God?
        Why would we bother trying? There's no way of knowing for sure and no reason to believe that right and wrong differ depending on which hurricanes were ostensibly caused by divine intervention. Claiming credit for disasters is just for people like Phelps who want to offset the sinking feeling they have that they are insignificant and comical.

        Ditto on "can non-christians go to heaven?" It sure doesn't hurt to be Christian (from a Christian POV) or to be a decent person regardless of religion. If you're just doing the bare minimum required to escape the Inferno, you're approaching the problem the wrong way anyway.
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        • #64
          But I agree with them on a lot of things (more on doctrine then any other church out there), and consider myself one. And the seventh day (saturday) is definitely the proper day to worship on (the Sabbath).
          And on the weekend God made football, and it was good.

          who cares what the Off Topic supports?
          OT refers to Old Testament

          Why would we bother trying?
          To blame it on the sinners we dont like of course

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          • #65
            Originally posted by Berzerker
            To blame it on the sinners we dont like of course
            That's what conspiracy theories exist for. When you're stretching reality to fit a theory, Pangloss-style, it's a lot more convenient to have a theory you authored yourself and thus have complete control over.
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            • #66
              Surely what they (WBC) do is at least disturbing the peace. The right of free speech has never been interpreted as allowing a person to harass private citiziens, such as the people attending a loved ones funeral. None of these miners were public figures. Disrupting their funeral serves no political purpose. I see no reson why the police can't just put them in jaill for a few days, and if they resist put'em in for a little longer.

              Does anyone know if Phelps has ever successfully sued anyone, or recieved an out of court settlement?
              "I say shoot'em all and let God sort it out in the end!

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              • #67
                thats how they fund themselves, they sue when people are provoked into attacking them. And they sue govts alot if they dont get to harass people (exercise freedom of speech)

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                • #68
                  You know, you've really got to wonder what Phelps' funeral is going to be like. I'd hope every person he ever pissed off shows up and annoys his loved ones.
                  "I have as much authority as the pope. I just don't have as many people who believe it." — George Carlin

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                  • #69
                    He has loved ones?
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                    • #70
                      Well, he's got a bunch of kids.
                      Why can't you be a non-conformist just like everybody else?

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                      • #71
                        I'm sorry, but simply saying that believing in Jesus is enough to get you into heaven, regardless of your own personal actions, is a bunch of crock.
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                        • #72
                          Originally posted by Last Conformist
                          Well, he's got a bunch of kids.
                          Well, they live in America, and America is worshipping *** gods on the brokeback mountain, so by default they are condemned to burn in hell.
                          Originally posted by Serb:Please, remind me, how exactly and when exactly, Russia bullied its neighbors?
                          Originally posted by Ted Striker:Go Serb !
                          Originally posted by Pekka:If it was possible to capture the essentials of Sepultura in a dildo, I'd attach it to a bicycle and ride it up your azzes.

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                          • #73
                            Originally posted by Bill3000
                            I'm sorry, but simply saying that believing in Jesus is enough to get you into heaven, regardless of your own personal actions, is a bunch of crock.
                            Why apologize? Philo seems to have gone away and I can't think of anyone else on 'poly who'd disagree with you on this point...
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                            • #74
                              Originally posted by Berzerker


                              OT refers to Old Testament
                              The what testament? You mean the Hebrew scriptures?

                              this relevant and not just a quibble, because the Jewish bible, as historically interpreted by Jews, does not necessarily say what you claim it does. But by calling it the old Testament it would seem you privilege historic Christian interpretations. for example, and most relevantly, many traditional Jewish interpreters would deny that the groups punishments presented in the bible tell us anything about such punishments today, because the destruction of the second temple in 67 CE altered the divine relation to the world, so that miracles of that kind no longer happen. This is before we even get to more modern interpretations.
                              "A person cannot approach the divine by reaching beyond the human. To become human, is what this individual person, has been created for.” Martin Buber

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                              • #75
                                Originally posted by Dr Strangelove
                                Surely what they (WBC) do is at least disturbing the peace. The right of free speech has never been interpreted as allowing a person to harass private citiziens, such as the people attending a loved ones funeral. None of these miners were public figures. Disrupting their funeral serves no political purpose. I see no reson why the police can't just put them in jaill for a few days, and if they resist put'em in for a little longer.

                                Does anyone know if Phelps has ever successfully sued anyone, or recieved an out of court settlement?

                                Hate to disappoint you, but the police never took such action as you think should be taken, for the picketing of Shepherd's funeral.
                                A lot of Republicans are not racist, but a lot of racists are Republican.

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