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  • #61
    [Note: In case it isn't obvious, have very little clue about American politics]
    Condoleezza Rice...what do Americans think of her nowadays anyway? I mean if she were a candidate would she have a chance?
    Seems to me she'd stand a good chance--smart (was a prof, wasn't she?), her connection to Bush implies conservatism for the evangelical base and the fact that she's not Bush/is black and a woman means that she can appeal to moderates.
    By the way, what WAS wrong with Kerry, exactly?
    "You say that it is your custom to burn widows. Very well. We also have a custom: when men burn a woman alive, we tie a rope around their necks and we hang them. Build your funeral pyre; beside it, my carpenters will build a gallows. You may follow your custom. And then we will follow ours."--General Sir Charles James Napier

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    • #62
      I mean if she were a candidate would she have a chance?
      None at all. She has not demonstrated an ability or desire to create a geographically diverse political organization or to manage coalitions. Senators are in this boat as well, and that's why they are rarely successful in presidential politics.

      However, this type of stuff is the stock-in-trade of governors. That's why governors are usually much more successful in presidential politics.
      I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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      • #63
        Originally posted by Kuciwalker
        Arnold.
        He's not eligible.

        Here is Romney's response: "It seems to me that it's only the Democrats that apply a litmus test on religion. Republicans don't apply a litmus test on religion, particularly toward great faiths like my own.... I don't think religion has a role to play in politics [or] in public service. I certainly haven't found it playing a role in Massachusetts and I hope people in my party and the Democratic party choose individuals based on their capabilities and their values."
        Does the US really need another president out of touch with reality? As a secularist I wish this were true, but it's not.

        My 2cents:

        McCain is the R most likely to succeed, but I'm not sure he'll get the nomination considering he's pissed off a lot of hawks.

        Clinton is the D most likely to fail. Her nomination could let a lesser R win. It's not exactly fair, but she's unlikely to shake the legacy of her hubbie.

        Here's my choice http://www.walken2008.com, but then again, I don't get to vote for the defacto leader of the free world .

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        • #64
          Originally posted by OzzyKP
          Hillary (provided she confirms her support for lowering hte voting age)

          Hillary (otherwise)
          A bit of a one track mind, yes?
          Stop Quoting Ben

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          • #65
            I think McCain is a weak candidate. People respect his independence, but they don't want somebody like that in charge of the party. So the question then becomes who is a strong candidate among an assumed GOP presidential field?

            Hillary would be a much better candidate than people give her credit. I've given my viewpoint on her in the past.
            Last edited by DanS; December 17, 2005, 02:00.
            I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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            • #66
              Using the list posted earlier...

              REPUB
              McCain 28.2
              Allen 15.1
              Giuliani 14.5
              Romney 8.5
              Rice 4.8
              Frist 4.0
              Allen was a governor. I don't like him too much, but he and Romney seem like the most credible among the bunch listed.
              I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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              • #67
                Does the US really need another president out of touch with reality?
                It was the right thing to say in this situation. Compliment your own religion. Shift the subject from religion to "values." Imply that the Dems don't have our values.
                I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by DanS
                  So the question then becomes who is a strong candidate among an assumed GOP presidential field?
                  This maybe just me being rah-rah for my state but Barbour seems as if he'd make for an effective candidate.
                  I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
                  For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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                  • #69
                    What are his strengths? I've only seen him work in Washington.
                    I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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                    • #70
                      He's been an effective governor, good with handling crowds and defending himself in a debate, and has the aura of percieved competence over his handling of Katrina (that may only be due to the generally poor performance of the LA state government).
                      I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
                      For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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                      • #71
                        Originally posted by baronzilch
                        He's not eligible.
                        No duh.

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                        • #72
                          Originally posted by Oerdin
                          I suppose you also consider Bill Clinton to be a Republican lite?
                          Points to his "wellfare reform".

                          People pat Clinton on the back about the 90's boom, he had NOTHING to do with it.

                          Gore invented the internet, not Clinton

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                          • #73
                            Originally posted by DinoDoc
                            They did nominate Kerry.
                            There was nothing wrong with Kerry. Diebold stole Ohio for Chimpy.

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