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  • #61
    I would like to see Condi go and stuff it between the legs (of her tour).
    So get your Naomi Klein books and move it or I'll seriously bash your faces in! - Supercitizen to stupid students
    Be kind to the nerdiest guy in school. He will be your boss when you've grown up!

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    • #62
      On the day of his release, the prison's director, who Masri believed was an American, told Masri that he had been held because he "had a suspicious name," Masri said in an interview.
      The name simply means "an Egyptian (guy)"

      What's so suspicious about that?
      "An archaeologist is the best husband a women can have; the older she gets, the more interested he is in her." - Agatha Christie
      "Non mortem timemus, sed cogitationem mortis." - Seneca

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      • #63
        It's Arab! It's all about those perfidious Arabs!
        Why can't you be a non-conformist just like everybody else?

        It's no good (from an evolutionary point of view) to have the physique of Tarzan if you have the sex drive of a philosopher. -- Michael Ruse
        The Nedaverse I can accept, but not the Berzaverse. There can only be so many alternate realities. -- Elok

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        • #64
          The poor guy's name was probably on one of the watchlists that the CIA has.
          I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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          • #65
            While Rice's response was full of crap, EUROPE is just as guilty as we are about this.

            They are a complete accessory to the crime and need to own up to it.

            There have been hundreds of rendition flights going in and out of Europe over the past few years and European governments knew full well about them.
            We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution. - Abraham Lincoln

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            • #66
              Remind me; who did we imprison for months without bringing charges lately?
              Why can't you be a non-conformist just like everybody else?

              It's no good (from an evolutionary point of view) to have the physique of Tarzan if you have the sex drive of a philosopher. -- Michael Ruse
              The Nedaverse I can accept, but not the Berzaverse. There can only be so many alternate realities. -- Elok

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              • #67
                There have been hundreds of rendition flights going in and out of Europe over the past few years and European governments knew full well about them.
                We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution. - Abraham Lincoln

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by Last Conformist
                  Remind me; who did we imprison for months without bringing charges lately?
                  Guilt due to complicity, or at least of omission.
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                  • #69
                    FYI: Rendition is not a new invention. It's been going on for decades.
                    I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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                    • #70
                      I just think it's unfair to ascribe something to Rice that she has not said.

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                      • #71
                        Originally posted by DanS
                        FYI: Rendition is not a new invention. It's been going on for decades.
                        So what?


                        We're supposed to learn from our mistakes and not repeat them.

                        And, in any case, this version of rendition is an escalated version on a much larger, sinister scale.
                        We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution. - Abraham Lincoln

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                        • #72
                          I think it would be better to separate our discussion of rendition from the poor treatment this guy received.
                          I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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                          • #73
                            Originally posted by Colon


                            Guilt due to complicity, or at least of omission.
                            So, because we've just raised moderate hell over it, we're just as guilty as those who do it? That does sound a bit odd to me.
                            Why can't you be a non-conformist just like everybody else?

                            It's no good (from an evolutionary point of view) to have the physique of Tarzan if you have the sex drive of a philosopher. -- Michael Ruse
                            The Nedaverse I can accept, but not the Berzaverse. There can only be so many alternate realities. -- Elok

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                            • #74
                              Not at all.

                              We're 70% guilty

                              You're 30% guilty

                              The European press would have us believe it's 100% USA
                              We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution. - Abraham Lincoln

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                              • #75
                                Re: Condi can go and stuff it

                                Be repsectful to the next President of the United States. Wait 'till she's appointed to heap scorn on her.
                                Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

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