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  • #16
    The cynical manner CIA and the American administration disregards due process of law and the basic rights of a defendant is disgusting. Moreover so that it does not even feel inclined to show the slightest bit of regret about it. Rice can go to hell, and along with her any European gov't official that has been cooperating in downplaying the issue.

    If this is war is about defending liberty and democracy, we have already lost it.
    Well yeah, considering the haughty and crude manner the Bush administration treated European grieves in the run-up to the invasion of Iraq, I did expect them to react more respectfully. Instead they once again barf we should shut up for the sake of good relations. If they're serious about good relations they maybe should think twice before they unlawfully nab a European citizen and treat him the way they did.

    Maybe someone would care to remind Rice that we've been having a European Convention of Human Rights and associated Court that has been guarding human rights and liberaties on this continent for over half a century already? We're not talking about some shred of paper you can ignore on technicalities, we're talking about a foundation of post-WW2 Europe.
    Hasn't quite gotten to you, has it?
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    • #17
      Instead they once again barf we should shut up for the sake of good relations.
      And I want to know where they barfed this. Cite please.
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      • #18
        Originally posted by Wezil
        Why do I have a hard time believing her...?

        Has anyone asked her to define "torture"? I suspect the US admin is working under a different definition than most...
        Why else would they claim not to torture yet vocally oppose a bill which specifically outlawed torture?
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        • #19
          Cuz it's already banned in US law?
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          • #20
            American foreign policy has reached the level of arrogance previously reserved for the Roman Empire.

            And despite the Americans love of the Classical, this is not a good thing.

            I guess nukes mean never having to say you're sorry.
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            • #21
              Doesn't seem to be working so repeating it seems necissary. Or at least clarifying the term to prevent any more Bu****e perversions.
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              • #22
                Yay, the Roman analogy has been made. Anybody wanna take bets on how many more posts before Godwinization?

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                • #23
                  Well, we already know Dan's position: "Kidnapping a German citizen to Afghanistan because of his appearance, holding and mistreating him for over a month without a formal charge, requesting the German gov't to keep quiet and not showing regret about any of it, is not important because Colon translates diplo-speak"

                  Ooops, I made an assumption again. Bad Colon, baaaad!
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                  • #24
                    Bunch of nazis.

                    There, now that's taken care of.
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                    • #25
                      Well, we already know Dan's position
                      Why do I even have to take a position? I'm merely calling you out for putting words in Rice's mouth and then berating her for those words.
                      I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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                      • #26
                        Quirke's Exception.

                        What else is she supposed to say? Admit to wrongdoing? Please.
                        Why can't you be a non-conformist just like everybody else?

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by DanS


                          Why do I even have to take a position? I'm merely calling you out for putting words in Rice's mouth and then berating her for those words.
                          "Duck, obfuscate and discredit"
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                          • #28
                            Just give me a cite, Colon.

                            Edit: Alternatively, you could drop the "US is disrespecting Europe" line (that seems to be straight from your imagination) and discuss the substance.
                            I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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                            • #29
                              Clever. I can't cite my interpretation so you won. Congrats. Feel ready to discuss the actual issue now?
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                              • #30
                                "US is disrespecting Europe"
                                Cite please.
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