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  • Ok Whaleboy,

    I'll give you some prophecies. There are TONS of prophecies that your Messiah Jesus Christ has fulfilled. Here are just a few, we'll discuss a few at a time. First, from Psalm 2, written by your own King David hundreds of years before Jesus Christ:

    "1 Why do the heathen rage, F3 and the people imagine a vain thing? 2 The kings of the earth set themselves, and the rulers take counsel together, against the LORD, and against his anointed, saying, 3 Let us break their bands asunder, and cast away their cords from us. 4 He that sitteth in the heavens shall laugh: the Lord shall have them in derision. 5 Then shall he speak unto them in his wrath, and vex F4 them in his sore displeasure. 6 Yet have I set F5 my king upon my holy hill of Zion.
    7 I will declare the decree: F6 the LORD hath said unto me, Thou art my Son; this day have I begotten thee. 8 Ask of me, and I shall give thee the heathen for thine inheritance, and the uttermost parts of the earth for thy possession. 9 Thou shalt break them with a rod of iron; thou shalt dash them in pieces like a potter's vessel.
    10 Be wise now therefore, O ye kings: be instructed, ye judges of the earth. 11 Serve the LORD with fear, and rejoice with trembling. 12 Kiss the Son, lest he be angry, and ye perish from the way, when his wrath is kindled but a little. Blessed are all they that put their trust in him." (Psalm 2)

    Notice it predicts Jesus' successful triumph over the nations as their Lord (which is basically fulfilled, all the nations have heard of the Lord and the greatest have believed). It also states that he is begotten of God Himself, the Son of God. Notice that all the Kings must submit to the Great King Jesus Christ.


    For the second prophecy, how about your own prophet Isaiah, who says that your Messiah will not just be a man as your jews thought, but that HE'LL BE GOD HIMSELF:


    For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace. (Isaiah 9:6)



    There are two kinds of prophecies. Some are just prophecies, like the ones above. There is another kind of prophecy called a "type". A type is a symbol of Jesus Christ in the Old Testament, written hundreds of years before His birth. If you will look earlier in the thread you'll see types of the declaration of the gospel (Sword of Gideon in Judges), and the type of Joseph representing Christ (Joseph was rejected by Judah and the 11 brothers of Israel, thrown into a pit, then delivered to the Gentiles and became Lord of the Gentiles in Egypt and delivered them from starvation). Does this not remind you of the Jews rejecting their brother Jesus Christ, Jesus Christ being thrown into a pit, and then being delivered to the Gentiles to be their LORD, and delivering us from spiritual starvation and eternal damnation? So you see there is a precise parallel between Joseph in Genesis and Christ.

    THOSE ARE THREE PROPHECIES. I can give you many more. But we'll take a few at a time.
    Last edited by Guest; December 11, 2005, 18:55.

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    • Ummm no, that' circular logic. The kind of prophecy I asked for was something that you dont have to refer to the bible for. In other words, it should be something in history that the bible predicts, like, say, the fall of Rome, the life+death of Archimedes or the Norman conquest, etc etc. If the bible prophesises something of which it later speaks, then the "prophecy" is as good as a "contents" page.
      "I work in IT so I'd be buggered without a computer" - Words of wisdom from Provost Harrison
      "You can be wrong AND jewish" - Wiglaf :love:

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      • which is basically fulfilled
        Have you read Machiavelli?
        "I work in IT so I'd be buggered without a computer" - Words of wisdom from Provost Harrison
        "You can be wrong AND jewish" - Wiglaf :love:

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        • Originally posted by Whaleboy
          Ummm no, that' circular logic. The kind of prophecy I asked for was something that you dont have to refer to the bible for. In other words, it should be something in history that the bible predicts, like, say, the fall of Rome, the life+death of Archimedes or the Norman conquest, etc etc. If the bible prophesises something of which it later speaks, then the "prophecy" is as good as a "contents" page.
          Um its NOT circular. First of all the prophecies themselves were written hundreds of years before the life of Jesus Christ. As far as the historical events of Jesus' life, all reputable historians admit that they are more or less on par with what happened. FINALLY, you'll notice that my first prophecy specifically refers to Christ conquering the nations, which is verified independently from the Bible by looking around you at the world today and seeing that practically the whole world knows about and/or accepts Jesus as LORD and as the begotten Son of God.

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          • Philosophiser, you seem to miss that it is pointless to argue against a non-believer with scripture and doom and gloom passages. It's just text from an ancient book. It is utterly insignificant. All it demonstrates is the primitiveness of your belief system.

            They only count within the context of your own faith, therefore they are circular.
            Speaking of Erith:

            "It's not twinned with anywhere, but it does have a suicide pact with Dagenham" - Linda Smith

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            • Originally posted by Whaleboy


              Have you read Machiavelli?
              Yes I've read him many times but lets stick to the subject, the fulfillment of biblical prophecy.

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              • Whaleboy,

                Please don't take this the wrong way- but the reason why the Jews have had it so hard throughout history is because the curse of God has come upon them as the Bible teaches- because they are among the most obstinate rejecters of Christ among all people, and they have the least excuse because they are HIS people, HIS ones.

                Near the last day the Jews will convert, and it will be glorious. As the Apostle Paul says- if their absence brought God's mercy to you (Gentiles), how much more their fullness!

                28 As concerning the gospel, the Jews enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the fathers' sakes. 29 For the gifts and calling of God are without repentance. 30 For as ye in times past have not believed God, yet have now obtained mercy through their unbelief: 31 Even so have these also now not believed, that through your mercy they also may obtain mercy. 32 For God hath concluded them all in unbelief, that he might have mercy upon all. 33 O the depth of the riches both of the wisdom and knowledge of God! how unsearchable are his judgments, and his ways past finding out! 34 For who hath known the mind of the Lord? or who hath been his counsellor? 35 Or who hath first given to him, and it shall be recompensed unto him again? 36 For of him, and through him, and to him, are all things: to whom be glory for ever. Amen. (Romans 11)

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                • You're so full of sh*t
                  Speaking of Erith:

                  "It's not twinned with anywhere, but it does have a suicide pact with Dagenham" - Linda Smith

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                  • Mmm, barely-repressed antisemitism. Don't worry, less than a hundred responses remain before this foolishness gets auto-locked.

                    Yeah, I know, I just wasted another one of them, but given the intellectual level of this thread as a whole, and Philo's impending vacation (EDIT: "to Mingapulco" strongly implied), why not?
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                    • I think this will be getting locked sooner than that, and so will Philosophiser...
                      Speaking of Erith:

                      "It's not twinned with anywhere, but it does have a suicide pact with Dagenham" - Linda Smith

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                      • Originally posted by Provost Harrison
                        I think this will be getting locked sooner than that, and so will Philosophiser...
                        Yes I'm sure thats what the enemies of God would definitely desire.

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                        • You are aware that your faith is akin to certain psychological conditions, as well as substance dependency?
                          Speaking of Erith:

                          "It's not twinned with anywhere, but it does have a suicide pact with Dagenham" - Linda Smith

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                          • Originally posted by Provost Harrison
                            I think this will be getting locked sooner than that, and so will Philosophiser...
                            I agree... He's been warned by PM for the last time... he's just one more "you will burn in Hell" away from getting his just deserves.
                            Keep on Civin'
                            RIP rah, Tony Bogey & Baron O

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                            • Originally posted by Philosophiser


                              Yes I'm sure thats what the enemies of God would definitely desire.
                              If it gets locked and you get shut down, it will be because of your mesages of hate to others... Enemies of GOD... HAHAHAHAHAHAA.... just people tired of your crap. God must be very disappointed with you as you do the work of the devil and chase people away from him.
                              Keep on Civin'
                              RIP rah, Tony Bogey & Baron O

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                              • Originally posted by Philosophiser
                                Yes I'm sure thats what the enemies of God would definitely desire.
                                You're probably right. After thousands of years witnessing spectacular wickedness like Vlad the Impaler or Ivan the Terrible, one bigot embarrassing himself online and failing to even notice it is probably pretty boring to Satan et al. The overt emotional torture of reality TV is in all likelihood more satisfying viewing.
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