Doing nice things for women

[Dis]

Originally posted by JohnT


Of course you should be nice to "women", Dis. They're part of that class known as "people".

Nice women go home with the nice guys. I've got one of them sleeping about 15 feet away from where I type if you want proof. And, as a general rule, nice women generally don't care for the sort of guys who would put that in their signature, Dis.

Chivalry isn't dead. Those who say it is find it easier to be an ******* than to be polite. Fvck 'em.

And this:

So the question I ask is: Do women unknowingly (or perhaps knowingly) manipulate men to do things for them?

Did you like realize this yesterday or something?

actually, I'm curious. What part of my signiture do you think a woman would have a problem with? I guess that's why I don't have a girlfriend. I have no idea what's inappropiate to say in front of women. Okay that's not true- I'm actually too shy to say anything offensive in front of women- I need to be more disgusting in front of them.

[JohnT]

Do you honestly have to ask that question, or is it rhetorical?

[Dis]

nevermind. I'll take it the whole thing is offensive.

[Urban Ranger]

Originally posted by JohnT
Did you like realize this yesterday or something?

Is Sophie messing you around?

[JohnT]

Of course she does. She blatantly tries to manipulate my feelings to her own benefit. Luckily for me, she's not subtle enough to realize that running out of her room like a bat out of hell, saying "I Love you, Daddy! I love you!" for no apparent reason whatsoever is suspicious in and of itself.

The suspicions only get worse when I stand up and her pronouncements of love unending turn into pleas of "No! Don't go in my room, it's OK! No!"

It's how they learn this stuff - they work it on their fathers. It's almost a genetic compulsion.

[Urban Ranger]

One wonders if that is inherited

[Sikander]

Originally posted by Dis
So the question I ask is: Do women unknowingly (or perhaps knowingly) manipulate men to do things for them?

I really know nothing about women, this is why I ask. And yes this will spark the mandatory joke: And you think people at Apolyton know anything about women?

Everyone manipulates at least on an unconscious level, it's really a question of degree.

[Mr. Harley]

Dis - JohnT is right. Nice women go home with nice men. However - you have to follow through. Get some tips from someone like Oerdin for example. Don't use people like Ted Stryker - his player persona would be utterly useless for you.

Read some books on Social Skills and on things like body language. Because of my childhood my skills in those areas were a bit warped, and it took me several years to get into the swing of things. So I can appreciate your dilemma. Pay very close attention, and try asking them out. Make it casual, maybe a resturaunt you've heard they like, and it can be "I'm going over to XXX tonight, care to come along."

Some of the married/older ladies can be a major asset. If you can appeal to their mothering instinct, you might get some very helpful advice from them. Again, the nice ones you help have the greatest potential. However, be careful. Some women of that ilk, once they start "helping" you, feel that YOU are obligated to follow their advice, and can become quite nasty if you don't. So be very careful before deciding who to initiate these planned "casual" conversations with.

Or join the SCA. Go to Pensic - if you can't get laid there...

[Dis]

Originally posted by Sikander


Everyone manipulates at least on an unconscious level, it's really a question of degree.

I don't. But I still haven't mastered basic social interaction yet either. .

[Dis]

SCA? Pensic? not familiar with that.

In any case, I'm not actually looking to get laid. I've given up on that years ago.

[Snotty]

the body language books are a good tip I think. Whenever women make any number Ive tiny movements Im now convinced Ive scored Great for my self confidence I can tell you, and thats all you really need

[Illur]

about nice guys
i'm a girl and my boy friend is a nice guy and we have been together for ~1,5 years and nice boy pwns bad boy
really most girls dosn't use their brain when they "choose" partner

[KrazyHorse]

"Nice guy" is not the same thing as being nice.

"Nice guy" means a pushover. A *****. A pathetic man who acts like the only chance he has to get into a girl's pants is to cater to her every whim. It reeks of desperation.

Honestly, most girls are pretty good at telling when a dude is into them, and any inordinate "niceness" by that guy tends to turn girls off. In addition, it's pathetic.

Just because you aren't a "nice guy" doesn't mean you're an *******. It just means that you give the impression that you want to go out with girls who like you because they find you attractive, funny, etc., not because you've curried favour through years of being a lapdog.

[duke o' york]

Bad boys don't make "partners". But for some reason women find them attractive for something shorter.

[Dis]

Originally posted by Snotty
the body language books are a good tip I think. Whenever women make any number Ive tiny movements Im now convinced Ive scored Great for my self confidence I can tell you, and thats all you really need

yeah I need to look into this body language.

So this other day this woman starts talking to me out of the blue. I looked behind me because I thought there's no way she's talking to me. She may have been coming on to me, I'm not sure. She wasn't an employee (I was at work- but I work in public areas). But I was so busy with work, I really didn't have time to talk to her. Plus I admit, I was put off by the neighborhood I met her in. I know I shouldn't stereotype women just because happens to be in a poor neighborhood. I grew up poor after all. But she just seemed kind of white trashy for me. But maybe white trash is the only woman I can get. I kind of regret not talking to her.