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. Where do people come up with this stuff.
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So the question I ask is: Do women unknowingly (or perhaps knowingly) manipulate men to do things for them?
I really know nothing about women, this is why I ask. And yes this will spark the mandatory joke: And you think people at Apolyton know anything about women?
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Originally posted by Dis
So the question I ask is: Do women unknowingly (or perhaps knowingly) manipulate men to do things for them?
Doing nice things just doing it only make them cuddly in a friendly way - doing it in the male way makes them cuddly in a more interesting way.With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.
Steven Weinberg
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Originally posted by Dis
So the question I ask is: Do women unknowingly (or perhaps knowingly) manipulate men to do things for them?
Women have honed this skill.. beware of it, Dis“I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
- John 13:34-35 (NRSV)
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Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
Well duh! And sometimes it can for minor things. I have this one female friend who dislikes when women are behind the counter at our favorite burrito place, because when the Mexican man is there she smiles at him and gets a larger serving of the meat than usual.
Women have honed this skill.. beware of it, Dis. Like I said in the other thread. I do have the mentality of a 14 year old.
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Re: Doing nice things for women
Originally posted by Dis
So what are your thoughts on this? Is it pathetic? I guess it is, but I can't help it.
The thing is, when I'm on my ass doing nothing, and a fellow employee is being swamped in work. I offer to help. That's the kind of guy I am. It just so happens that most of the employees at my company are women. And they have the toughest (in terms of being busy) jobs. I guess that's why I like the company I work for. Lots of women.. But yes I admit I help the women more than the men.
I don't expect anything out of it. I'm not that much of a pig. All I want is a thank you and some appreciation. So I don't think this is some form of hidden chauvenism.
And I don't just do it for the pretty women. I do it for the average looking women too.. But I admit, I only do it to the women who are nice to me. Some of the women I work with barely even acknowledge my existence. I don't help them. Is that wrong? It's only natural to help those who are nice to you.
So I'm not sure what to do. Social relationships are complex. I still haven't figured them out. That's why I never have a girlfriend I guess. I just can't figure out human social conventions. But what I have decided is I'm going to accept myself for who I am. I am what I am. And I'm a nice guy who likes to help friendly women. I don't care if it means they don't respect me. If I have to treat a woman like crap to get their respect, then I don't want their respect. I'm simply not capable of treating women badly. I am willing to accept my eternal status as a nice guy.
I do, however, think that as a polite and helpful individual, then helping the women do things is perfectly fine. Not if it's "because" they're women though, you should be helping men and women alike. Likewise, I would expect the exact same behaviour from other women. Holding doors open, carrying stuff, helping to ease workload if you can etc.
Having said that I can't speak for other women, but this is most definitely the case for myself and the women I know. You don't "expect" to be helped, you get on with it yourself. You don't "expect" your partner to pay for everything, to buy you flowers or whatever....
Although this may be because I went to school in a single-sex boarding school. Most girls that school churned out were independant, driven and consciencious.
Also, I like nice guys
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I should also note I don't help women at work unless they are being overwhelmed. Because I don't want it to look like I don't think they can't do their job. They can. It's just their workload is much higher than mine at times. So I've very careful to avoid those kinds of actions. Most of the time, I'm okay sitting on my ass while they work..
As for holding open doors, I do that for men too. it's a common courtesy. I do carry stuff if it's heavy. But if it's too havey I just tell them to have someone else do it. I dont' have a strong back..
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Re: Re: Doing nice things for women
Originally posted by Nanimo
Also, I like nice guysWhy can't you be a non-conformist just like everybody else?
It's no good (from an evolutionary point of view) to have the physique of Tarzan if you have the sex drive of a philosopher. -- Michael Ruse
The Nedaverse I can accept, but not the Berzaverse. There can only be so many alternate realities. -- Elok
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Originally posted by Snotty
Lots of women like me and Im a 'nice guy', mostly because Im devoted to the girl Ive got....Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.
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Originally posted by Snotty
Lots of women like me and Im a 'nice guy', mostly because Im devoted to the girl Ive got...."Remember, there's good stuff in American culture, too. It's just that by "good stuff" we mean "attacking the French," and Germany's been doing that for ages now, so, well, where does that leave us?" - Elok
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