Clemency for Tookie?

[Kuciwalker]

No more than if we had a state policy to kill deer when the population grew too large.

[DinoDoc]

Originally posted by Berzerker
Life in prison seeking redemption is quite a price

Redemption if the term is to have any meaning, requires an admission of guilt, facing up to what you did and expressing remorse. Williams has done none of that. So spare me the painful joke of his claimed redemption.

[Berzerker]

Didn't I say that earlier?

However, people seek redemption in other ways without admitting guilt to others.

[Pekka]

mitchell, cured? Hey, Madonna has written childrens books, so that makes her what.. a non-whore?

[Odin]

DD, ANSWER THE F*CKING QUESTION! DO YOU THINK THE DP IS MORE EFFECTIVE THAN LIFE IN PRISON?

[MrFun]

The death penalty is not an effective deterrent -- United States has a much higher murder rate than other Western nations that do not have the death penalty.

If the death penalty was an effective deterrent, wouldn't it be the other way around?

[Dinner]

I'm happy he's written children's books while he was in jail but that doesn't excuse his murdering three people and starting a brutal street gang.

[Ted Striker]

Originally posted by Odin
DD, ANSWER THE F*CKING QUESTION! DO YOU THINK THE DP IS MORE EFFECTIVE THAN LIFE IN PRISON?

Dinodoc does not answer questions nor offers personal opinons.


YOu have to state your own opinion and then let him ask a question that puts it down.

[Urban Ranger]

I am against the death penalty.

When a person commits murder, getting the DP is probably not on his (or her) mind.

[Berzerker]

DP is a deterrant, people put to death never kill again

[Sikander]

I'm against the death penalty because it is irreversible should there turn out to be an error, and there are a lot of errors. But I'm not against the death penalty per se. It won't bother me if this guy gets put to death, assuming that he isn't found to have been innocent afterwards.

[SpencerH]

A tough decision but I have to come down on the side of clemency in this case. The potential benfits to society by commuting his sentence to life without parole outweigh the benefit derived from euthanizing another scumbag.

[Japher]

The potential benfits to society by commuting his sentence to life without parole outweigh the benefit derived from euthanizing another scumbag

Really?

What about saying you get the death but then when the time comes the state balks? What about if they say life without parole, does the state mean maybe you'll get parole maybe not? What kind of message is that? No deterant!

You can welch on the law, else the law ain't worth crap, and ppl won't obey it.

[DinoDoc]

Originally posted by Odin
DD, ANSWER THE F*CKING QUESTION! DO YOU THINK THE DP IS MORE EFFECTIVE THAN LIFE IN PRISON?

Out of curiosity, how did that become the question in a thread about whether a scumbag should have the sentence he was given or not?

[SpencerH]

Originally posted by Japher


Really?

What about saying you get the death but then when the time comes the state balks? What about if they say life without parole, does the state mean maybe you'll get parole maybe not? What kind of message is that? No deterant!

You can welch on the law, else the law ain't worth crap, and ppl won't obey it.

AFAIK there is no good evidence that the death penalty is a deterrent but there is plenty of evidence to suggest that it is not. Therefore, arguing that euthanizing this scum reduces the value of the DP as a deterrent is meaningless IMO.

We euthanize these sub-human creatures as punishment, to remove their threat to society, and to assuage our desire for revenge (all of which (and others) are perfectly valid reasons for doing so IMO). OTOH, while I dont agree with most of them, there are also arguable benefits to society from not euthanizing them. I accept the possibility though that in some (rare) cases the benefits from not euthanizing an individual outweigh the benefits of doing so. This particular case seems to be one of those rare situations.