Announcement

Collapse
No announcement yet.

The sad case of Conrad Black

Collapse
X
Collapse
 
  • Page of 8
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
Previous 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 template Next
  • #76
    Originally posted by KrazyHorse
    Conrad Black is a bona fide citizen of Britain. As such, he was free to repudiate his Canadian citizenship. He cannot then repudiate his British citizenship (since this would leave him stateless) without having first found himself some other country which grants him citizenship.

    At no point in all this can Canada be forced to take him back.


    I've just done more reading on citizenship than I ever wanted to do.

    I'm still not satisfied that the UNUDHR means 'citizenship' in the important clause, but it hasn't been fully resolved as of yet. There are still stateless people floating around, and the only way to fully resolve that is a recognised right to citizenship in the land of your birth (or that of your travelling parents).
    (\__/)
    (='.'=)
    (")_(") This is Bunny. Copy and paste bunny into your signature to help him gain world domination.

    Comment

    • #77
      Originally posted by Max Webster
      Why did the Brits want to make Conrad a knight anyway? Did he slip something into their or tea or what?

      I say ole boy. Lets smoke some of this tea ole chap. Then we will put you in this suit of armour and you can parade about the castle grounds bye crocky. Toot,toot and tally ho look at Conrad go.
      He owned a **** load of public relations organs.
      (\__/)
      (='.'=)
      (")_(") This is Bunny. Copy and paste bunny into your signature to help him gain world domination.

      Comment

      • #78
        Originally posted by notyoueither
        He owned a **** load of public relations organs.
        Thats it. He was knighted because he owns some cheesy newspapers. The english are getting soft between the ears me thinks. I thought it was something more manly, something noble. A daring and dangereous climb up a castle wall to save the royal damsel who is locked away in a tower for example.

        Comment

        • #79
          Originally posted by KrazyHorse
          Not just a knight; he was made a Peer of the Realm, i.e. a Lord
          Does he have to wear one of those gay white wigs that make the Brits look like idiots?

          Comment

          • #80
            Originally posted by Max Webster


            Thats it. He was knighted because he owns some cheesy newspapers. The english are getting soft between the ears me thinks. I thought it was something more manly, something noble. A daring and dangereous climb up a castle wall to save the royal damsel who is locked away in a tower for example.
            We're too busy letting quaint colonials wander around our castles to keep damsels in them these days.
            Exult in your existence, because that very process has blundered unwittingly on its own negation. Only a small, local negation, to be sure: only one species, and only a minority of that species; but there lies hope. [...] Stand tall, Bipedal Ape. The shark may outswim you, the cheetah outrun you, the swift outfly you, the capuchin outclimb you, the elephant outpower you, the redwood outlast you. But you have the biggest gifts of all: the gift of understanding the ruthlessly cruel process that gave us all existence [and the] gift of revulsion against its implications.
            -Richard Dawkins

            Comment

            • #81
              What is this, the French Revolution? Let Lord Black be!
              "Wait a minute..this isn''t FAUX dive, it's just a DIVE!"
              "...Mangy dog staggering about, looking vainly for a place to die."
              "sauna stories? There are no 'sauna stories'.. I mean.. sauna is sauna. You do by the laws of sauna." -P.

              Comment

              • #82
                Lord Black committed some of the worst and most blatant fraud in the last twenty years. And that's saying a lot, given the pretty horrible frauds perpetrated by company owners over the last 20 years ...
                <Reverend> IRC is just multiplayer notepad.
                I like your SNOOPY POSTER! - While you Wait quote.

                Comment

                • #83
                  Originally posted by Seeker
                  What is this, the French Revolution? Let Lord Black be!
                  Off with his head, I say.

                  Wonder if there is any guillotine's for sale on ebay?

                  Comment

                  • #84
                    Originally posted by Starchild

                    We're too busy letting quaint colonials wander around our castles to keep damsels in them these days.
                    Why would some half-breed brit want to wander around a damp and dingy castle if there is no hot damsel in distress to be found?

                    Comment

                    • #85
                      Originally posted by Max Webster


                      half-breed brit

                      Interesting choice of phrase coming from someone in a country populated with them....

                      And the metis too, of course.



                      Mr. Black wanted a British peerage- perhaps he felt that he just had to sound the same as Beaverbrook and other Canadian press barons of yore.

                      He wanted it despite knowing about the 1919 resolution, and the likely consequences.

                      So having renounced citizenship of the land of his birth because he just couldn't get what he wanted (i.e., Canadian citizenship AND a British peerage) now when he's in legal troubles up to his eyebrows in the U.S. , he says,

                      " Eh, just gimme back the Canadian citizenship which I renounced for no other reason than that I wanted a foreign title. "

                      Has he always been a spoilt brat, or is this a recent development ?
                      Vive la liberte. Noor Inayat Khan, Dachau.

                      ...patriotism is not enough. I must have no hatred or bitterness towards anyone. Edith Cavell, 1915

                      Comment

                      • #86
                        Originally posted by molly bloom
                        Has he always been a spoilt brat, or is this a recent development ?
                        Well I think he hails from Alberta, so the spoiled brat thing is pretty much a prequistite from birth.

                        Comment

                        • #87
                          Originally posted by notyoueither




                          I've just done more reading on citizenship than I ever wanted to do.

                          I'm still not satisfied that the UNUDHR means 'citizenship' in the important clause, but it hasn't been fully resolved as of yet. There are still stateless people floating around, and the only way to fully resolve that is a recognised right to citizenship in the land of your birth (or that of your travelling parents).
                          How many times do we have to point out to you that CONRAD BLACK IS NOT STATELESS!

                          What is your response to the question of renouncing citizenship being completely and utterly meaningless if the nation must give you back your citizenship as soon as you ask for it?
                          Best MMORPG on the net: www.cyberdunk.com?ref=310845

                          An eye for an eye leaves the whole world blind. -Gandhi

                          Comment

                          • #88
                            Originally posted by Max Webster

                            Well I think he hails from Alberta, so the spoiled brat thing is pretty much a prequistite from birth.
                            Wha?

                            He was a brewery heir from Montreal.
                            (\__/)
                            (='.'=)
                            (")_(") This is Bunny. Copy and paste bunny into your signature to help him gain world domination.

                            Comment

                            • #89
                              Originally posted by The Mad Viking


                              How many times do we have to point out to you that CONRAD BLACK IS NOT STATELESS!

                              What is your response to the question of renouncing citizenship being completely and utterly meaningless if the nation must give you back your citizenship as soon as you ask for it?
                              Yelling isn't going to make points. Try rereading my postion. Here, I'll help...

                              I don't give a fig what the consequences of acknowledging a person's birthright are. It is a human right, IMO. It happens to be most pressing for stateless individuals (as an example). If the guy is a criminal, lock him up, but if he's born a Canuck, I don't want pin heads in the government and beaureacracy being able to screw with his right (IMO) to his citizenship.

                              If you want a good example why, try reading about the Canadians who were denied their citizenship between 1949 and 1977 because the governments first forgot about them and then refused to fix the problem for people born before 1977. It was the case of children born in Canada to Canadian parents who lost their Canadian citizenship without their consent when their parents emigrated to other countries.
                              (\__/)
                              (='.'=)
                              (")_(") This is Bunny. Copy and paste bunny into your signature to help him gain world domination.

                              Comment

                              • #90
                                Originally posted by notyoueither
                                I don't want pin heads in the government and beaureacracy being able to screw with his right (IMO) to his citizenship.
                                I agree with the pinheads screwing with his rights part, but and a BIG BUT he gave up his citizenship to become an British citizen. No big deal. If thats your wish, then fine.

                                What gets under my skin, is now that faces possible jail time he wants to be a Canadian citizen again.

                                I have no sympathy for him whatsoever.

                                Is Conrad some kind of hero in Alberta. Because he took on Ottawa and told the liberals to eff off.

                                Comment

                                Previous 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 template Next
                                Working...
                                X