"Cool Mom" Gets Thirty Years

[Thorn]

Hmm... does seem harsh to me, but lets put this in perspecitive.... she probably got 5 years for the sex parties, and 25 for the drugs... yep that's how the good ol' USA works.

You know my BF had he confessed to stealing the money for drug use, they would have added a 10 year sentence to his possible 5 year max. Don'tya love this country?

[Last Conformist]

No.

[lord of the mark]

Geez louise.

This woman was lucky the parents didnt tear her limb from limb. Giving meth to kids, and then all the other shenanigans. "You cant do the time, dont do the crime" Cry me a river.

[JohnT]

You know my BF had he confessed to stealing the money for drug use, they would have added a 10 year sentence to his possible 5 year max. Don'tya love this country?

Not too sure why it's the countries fault because you're dating a thief... mind explaining that logic?

[Fake Boris]

Originally posted by DinoDoc
Sorry. Not particularly interested in debating if crystal meth is dangerous much less addictive or not. It is a stupid arguement and only serves to make the people involved look like retards.

Tobacco is more addictive than heroine. Fact.

Less than 5% of American soldiers who were regular heroine users in Vietnam kept doing it when they came back to America. Fact.

[Thorn]

John T he didn't steal anything, he was pressured into it by the police cause he has mental issues and was not medicated at the time.

[DinoDoc]

Oncle Boris: The word heroin appears no where in the post you quoted. Fact.

[Odin]

Berz, quit being an idiot. Meth and crack is dangerous sh*t. Marijuana, if used right, is no more harmful than alcohol. Meth and cocaine are in a whole 'nother league.

[Berzerker]

Az

Yay semantics: It's not flawed. " " indicates that the noun, the subject, performs the action described by the verb regularly - and doesn't necessarily mean that it's the only outcome, or that it does that all the time, etc.

Accuracy is not semantics, "cancer kills" is not accurate, "cancer can kill" is. Replace cancer with guns, cars, or processed sugar (in the hands of humans), and you will see accuracy is not a sin.

Dino

Sorry. Not particularly interested in debating if crystal meth is dangerous much less addictive or not. It is a stupid arguement and only serves to make the people involved look like retards.

Then what are you doing in the thread sniping at me? Crystal meth can be dangerous for some people, it wasn't for me or for many other people. But if we tell that truth, you get upset because it doesn't jive with your false perception. In your effort to avoid appearing retarded, you've exposed a serious character flaw.

Kuci

Now at least we can explain Berz.

You and Dino sharing talking points? But do tell, what does it explain? Sadly, I know what it explains about you...

Aggie

Locking up someone for 30 years for suffering from a mental illness is ridiculous, particularly when people were lining up to be victims of her crimes.

Yup

[Berzerker]

Odin

Berz, quit being an idiot. Meth and crack is dangerous sh*t.

I "survived" both, kinda dishonest for me to agree with your generalisations.

[Odin]

Originally posted by Berzerker
Odin

I "survived" both, kinda dishonest for me to agree with your generalisations.

Not without brain damage, apparently.

[DinoDoc]

Originally posted by Berzerker
Then what are you doing in the thread sniping at me?

This is the OTF.

[Berzerker]

Not without brain damage, apparently.

Then you should have no problem at all refuting my arguments.

[Agathon]

Originally posted by lord of the mark


Shes got bipolar 2. Anybody who has depression that looks cyclical, or that is associated with even "hypomania" gets BP2 as a diagnosis. A BP2, like most depressives, is responsible for their actions like anybody else. (You may be thinking of whats now called Bipolar 1, which includes full manic episodes, and sometimes psychosis) The idea that people suffering from mood disorders are "insane" only adds to the stigma, and makes some people reluctant to seek treatment.

http://www.psycheducation.org/start/BPIntro.htm

Except that I don't agree that bipolar people are responsible for their actions. Hell, I don't believe most people are responsible for most of their actions since "responsibility" is a bull**** and ill defined term to start with.

I've known bipolar people. It's not fun to be one.

[Agathon]

Originally posted by lord of the mark
Geez louise.

This woman was lucky the parents didnt tear her limb from limb. Giving meth to kids, and then all the other shenanigans. "You cant do the time, dont do the crime" Cry me a river.

* Adds LOTM to the list of Apolyton fascists.