"I say slack off a little, in the interest of workers everywhere."

[Kuciwalker]

Originally posted by Ben Kenobi
That's a rather interesting comment, given that I currently reside in Canada.

Not once I consider that you actually care about Roe.

[Kuciwalker]

Originally posted by Ben Kenobi
Kuci, prolifers are not deterred by the legal status of abortion, to them, abortion is an unjust law that needs to be changed. If they were deterred, wouldn't they have just folded up tents long ago?

The movement is going to evaporate. Roe v Wade gave birth to it in the first place.

[Urban Ranger]

Originally posted by Ming
I work long hours, and I don't care. While I may not get overtime pay.. my salary, profit sharing, and bonuses more than make up for it. I have a job to do, and I do it.

Admit it, you don't get more done working 12 hours instead of 8.

[MrFun]

I cruise guys on days I work as a cashier at Super Target.

[DinoDoc]

Originally posted by MrFun
I cruise guys on days I work as a cashier at Super Target.

How do you manage to stifle the general hatred of the public being a cashier causes?

[MrFun]

Originally posted by DinoDoc
How do you manage to stifle the general hatred of the public being a cashier causes?

I treasure every common sense customer that I deal with so that the clueless customers do not poison my soul.


Well, that's not entirely true, unfortunately.

[DinoDoc]

I sympathize. I'm a cashier at Wal-Mart.

[Imran Siddiqui]

You poor, poor soul

[MrFun]

OMG!!!!


ThAt is TeH EviL!!!

[Ted Striker]

Originally posted by Urban Ranger


Admit it, you don't get more done working 12 hours instead of 8.

I agree, look at countries with lower working hours, (Norway, Netherlands) and then look at their productivity. They are extremley productive.

There is a direct relation to hours worked versus productivity.

There is NOT a direct relation to how many hours you work to how much money your company makes.

That's just relic Puritan thinking, where the more miserable you are, the more successful you are.

[Ming]

I pretty much work 11 hours a day... and I get FAR more done than I could in 8 hours. During the 8 traditional hours, I'm in meetings, on the phone, answering email... it's the 2 and 1/2 hours in the early morning, and the last hour that I get a lot of stuff done

Believe me when I say that if I could get everything done in just 8 hours a day, I would. It's just not possible. And I do get compensated for my efforts

[Bosh]

Originally posted by Drake Tungsten

Japan has 10 times the cult of work America has, and Japanese have a long life span...

Yep. All this *****ing from Americans about how long they work just sounds like ***** whining when you work in a Japanese office. Twelve hour days are practically the norm here.

Yeah, but how many of those twelve hours are spent doing anything remotely resembling productive work?

If I work hard, my company makes more money, and then, so do I. If I were to be lazy (like it sounds like some people here are), the company would make less money... and then, so would I.

I don't think there's anywhere near that much of a correlation. Especially with Free Riders etc. etc.

[Ted Striker]

Exactly. On both points.

[Drake Tungsten]

Yeah, but how many of those twelve hours are spent doing anything remotely resembling productive work?

Not many. Then again, I work at a school, so I don't know what the daily life of the average salaryman is like.

[Ted Striker]

Here's a study on productivity, I believe there have been more recent ones done. According to the study, US workers are the most productive in the world, and even though we work long hours, most of our productivity advantage is mainly based on the technology we use to get our jobs done.



American workers are most productive, but some Europeans do better per hour
( 2003-09-01 13:58) (Agencies)

US workers are the world's most productive, but they put in more hours than Europeans to score higher, according to a study by the United Nations.

Workers in France, Belgium and Norway beat the Americans in productivity per hour, the International Labor Organization said in its new issue of Key Indicators of the Labor Market released Monday.

Output per person employed in the United States last year was US$60,728, the report said. Belgium, the highest-scoring European Union member, had US$54,333.

``Part of the difference in output per worker was due to the fact that Americans worked longer hours than their European counterparts,'' the ILO said. ``US workers put in an average of 1,825 hours in 2002.''

Japanese worked about the same number of hours as Americans, but in major European economies the average ranged from 1,300 to 1,800 hours, it said.

``In terms of output per person employed, the US is on top,'' said Dorothea Schmidt, an economist on the team that produced the 855-page report.

``In terms of output per hour we have three European countries doing better than the US _ that's Belgium, Norway and France, and they have done so ever since the mid-80s,'' Schmidt said.

Norwegians lead the league, with an output of US$38 per hour worked last year. French workers were in second place, with an average of US$35 an hour, the report said. Belgians were third at US$34. US workers were in fourth place at US$32 per hour worked.

Schmidt said it wasn't clear why the three countries outscored the United States.
``There are many, many reasons,'' she said. ``One might be that during the time that these people work, they work more efficiently. It might be that the technology they use enables them to be@efficient in this one hour.''

The differences were not that great, she said. ``It's not that they do twice the work that a US worker does. It's the small things. If you work 15 hours a day, of course there are hours when you are not as productive as if you only work six hours a day.''

But working less is not necessary the key, as is shown by most other European Union countries that trail the United States, she said. It also depends on such factors as motivation, skills and training.

The report found that in most countries the number of hours worked had been going down over the past three years in conjunction with the decline in the world economy.

The US figure of 1,825 hours worked in 2002 was down from 1,834 in 2000, it said. Norwegian hours worked dropped from to 1,342 from 1,380 over the same period.

Swedish hours worked went to 1,581 from 1,625. In France they went to 1,545 from 1,587. In Australia to 1,824 from 1,855, in Canada to 1,778 from 1,807, in Ireland from 1,668 to 1,690 and in Germany to 1,444 from 1,463.

The ILO said US productivity has been growing twice as fast as that in Europe and Japan over the past seven years.

The report said the high overall US productivity resulted in part from two factors. The first is that the US economy provides an environment for widespread use of information and communications technology. The second is that it has had more growth of wholesale and retail trade and financial securities using the technology.

Schmidt said that the report also looked at productivity in agriculture, where technology proved to be a huge advantage. For example, she said, an agricultural worker in the United States produces 650 times more than the worker in Vietnam.

But she said the report, which was based on government-supplied figures and other data, shouldn't be taken to mean that workers in developing countries were lazy or inefficient.

``If you are talking about developing countries, it's not fair to say that these people are not efficient,'' she told reporters. ``They are working hard. They are probably working harder than other people.

``It's just because they do not have the technology that they cannot perform that well.''