Why Do People let Themselves Get Obese?

[Jon Miller]

today, btw, I had

1 plate of ravioli, sauce, and cheese (over 1000 Calories, I know)
2 small bowls of corn chex with skim milk (small bowls.. probably combine to form 1)
1 bottle of juice
2 bean burritoes from taco bell..

so I got some fruit, some veggies, and lots of dairy and carbs

Jon Miller

[Urban Ranger]

Originally posted by Jon Miller
there was a period when I Was trying to eat less then 1800 calories a day

I was hungery for that entire week, and din't keep to it

Eat things such as whole grains and oatmeal. They will be digested slower and release sugar into your body at a more constant level. Also eat more veggies, beans, and fruits.

Eat small meals six times a day. That should keep your blood sugar at a more constant level so you are less prone to pangs of hunger.

[Urban Ranger]

Originally posted by Jon Miller
I don't really know how to cook

Cooking is a skill that is easy to learn and hard to master.

If you can boil water, you can make soup and steam stuff. Then you can use a rice cooker to make (whole grain) rice.

[Mrs. Tuberski]

I cant say that i had a show of hands of all my obese patients that, they let them selves be fat. For the info most folks did not wake up and say you know what i am just going to be fat or obese cause i dont give a dam. For some foks it is not a matter of choice. but i guess this world is to superficial and arrogant to realize that the fat person might have a serious health problem and is not able to loose weight. Better we just call them fat asses and write them off huh

[Last Conformist]

Originally posted by Jon Miller
today, btw, I had

1 plate of ravioli, sauce, and cheese (over 1000 Calories, I know)
2 small bowls of corn chex with skim milk (small bowls.. probably combine to form 1)
1 bottle of juice
2 bean burritoes from taco bell..

so I got some fruit, some veggies, and lots of dairy and carbs

Jon Miller

That's a big plate of ravioli.

What I had yesterday:

A glass of kefir with sugar (100kcal, perhaps)
Four sandwiches (~400 kcal, I'd say)
A plate of spaghetti with meatballs (~750 kcal)
Pie with icecream and liqueur (500 kcal, maybe)

I normally eat somewhat more sensibly.

[Dr. Nick]

For some foks it is not a matter of choice. but i guess this world is to superficial and arrogant to realize that the fat person might have a serious health problem and is not able to loose weight. Better we just call them fat asses and write them off huh

The genetic component is there, but is small. Being unhealthy is a matter of choice or neglect, people that want to be healthy are, and all it takes is sensible eating and sensible energy expenditure in the form of exercise for most of the people who are overweight and/or obese.

[Jon Miller]

those sandwiches must have been tiny to be 400 Cal...

normally just the bread (For one) is ~200ish

JM

[Last Conformist]

I consider them normal-sized ... maybe that's tiny to you.

[GePap]

Jon Miller is right- unless you are refering to the type of sandwich which you get a English tea parties, just the rbead alone for 4 sandwiches will be more than 400 Kcal or so. I mean, having looked at the info on the whole wheat bread I have, 57grams of it is 120 Kcal.

[Last Conformist]

Well, it seems I miscalculated somewhere; it should be ~800 kcal for four sandwiches.

[Mrs. Tuberski]

Originally posted by Dr. Nick


The genetic component is there, but is small. Being unhealthy is a matter of choice or neglect, people that want to be healthy are, and all it takes is sensible eating and sensible energy expenditure in the form of exercise for most of the people who are overweight and/or obese.

HAS it occured to you that most of the folks cant afford the senisble health foods?? Oh for gods sakes, like i said I guess they woke up one day and said you know what i am gonna be fat, I think not. Lets get real here. Some folks dont have the luxury of eating healthy and light, they eat what they have and most is not from going to mcdonalds everyday . How easy it is to judge when ur not in those shoes. oH and by the way these folks that are over weight, gee how to say this.... well they are aware they are over weight, and dont need to be made a mockery of. But i guess thats a bit different if say they were yellow purple or black.

[Last Conformist]

They can't afford not to eat too much? That, I'm afraid, is bull****. People who are genuinely poor starve.

[Datajack Franit]

A pint of ice cream a week won't make anyone fat, if that is their only indulgence

I understand ice cream as a reward once a week, after a couple of weeks of diet.. but in the very beginning?

[Mrs. Tuberski]

Originally posted by Last Conformist
They can't afford not to eat too much? That, I'm afraid, is bull****. People who are genuinely poor starve.

I am sorry but when your living on pure protien like beans and peanut butter and make ur own tortillas i hardly call that starving but it fills ur belly. then you throw in eggs which are cheap as well with some rice well i guess u might be getting the point cause most of this stuff is cooked with lard and oil. these folks wont go and say you know what i need to my cannoal oil etc cause its less fattening, its cause it is cheaper why they buy it

[Mrs. Tuberski]

Not to mention that these folks that eat bad have no teachng on proper nutrition. They dont go to the doctor unless something hurts.
Oh and by the way over eating is a disease, just like alocholism and drug addiction for some folks. It can be seen as a release but i guess as you guys say these folks just choose to be fat