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  • #31
    But it doesnt have to be a choice of human life over animal life. The government accept this, which is why they are making the policy.

    WRT staying with a unrescued pet in the path of a storm, its a risk analysis. I know my dog would stand very little chance to survive if I leave him. If I stay I could most probably pull us both through

    Thats a risk many pet owners I know would be willing to take, but its not a decision they should have to make
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    • #32
      Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
      Refusing to leave because you have an attachment to a [kid] that you, quite frankly, could largely replace [by having sex with a member of the opposite gender] is a self-defeating idiocy, and if they want to purge themselves from the gene pool, more power to them.


      Just a few edits by me
      thats what people view their pets as, but it just isn't so. and replacement kids are a bit more difficult to obtain then replacement pets.

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      • #33
        No, they are just as impossible to replace
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        • #34
          Honestly? I do believe in the power of rehabilitation.

          A multiple-murderer has the potential of becoming a productive member of society in a way that no dog, cat, bird, fish, hamster, iguana, or whatever, can.

          That's why if there are limited resources, particularly in the case of food, water, and waste disposal, the government should prioritize it in favor of humans.

          Why? Because those humans are registered citizens (or resident aliens), and thus deserving of services provided by the government.

          Animals are not citizens; thus, they do not, should not, get the same rights nor consideration granted humans.

          Now, I'm not against certain animal rights--but in the states of emergency, humans deserve the scarce resources, not the animals.
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          • #35
            Originally posted by Snotty


            Thats a risk many pet owners I know would be willing to take, but its not a decision they should have to make
            I'd stick it out with poor, innocent Naz while all the do gooders rescue all the axe murderers.

            Politcal Correctness gone mad! Rape children and get rescued, lick your own b0llocks and be damned!

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Snotty
              No, they are just as impossible to replace
              We'll have to disagree here:
              You can buy pets at a shelter for less than $500.
              You cannot buy children.

              When you can put a pricetag on a life, then it becomes chattel, replaceable, and property.

              Furthermore, animals are, at least in my experience, replaceable. Many young children, when their beloved dog dies, are just as satisfied with a new one. Many adults, when their family cat passes on, will miss the cat, but they may eventually get a new one.

              I've never seen anyone who hasn't, in one form another, replaced a pet they've lost.

              On the other hand, I've never seen a family replace a child.
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              • #37
                Women, children and ferrets first!

                What do you mean, no-one in the US keeps ferrets as pets? Is it really just Yorkshire then?

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                • #38
                  I should think a pet does not take a place from a human in a boat/helo. Unless it's one of those big danes...

                  If pets can be saved at the same time, with very little extra cost... Say, the owner is harnessed to a helo, and clings to his pet, I doubt it's in everyone's best interest to force him to drop the animal, if the helo and harness can take the weight. But, if someone is saved, then tells the reasque-folks that they need to go get, possibly even find, his pet pig... Eh.

                  I'm surprised so few people have pigs as pets. Their meat is much better than dog's, in case of an emergency.
                  I've allways wanted to play "Russ Meyer's Civilization"

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Snotty
                    But it doesnt have to be a choice of human life over animal life. The government accept this, which is why they are making the policy.
                    But it is a choice between human life over animal life under states of emergency. If there had been animals sucking up resources in the SuperDome or the Convention Center, I'm sure things could have gotten much worse.

                    WRT staying with a unrescued pet in the path of a storm, its a risk analysis. I know my dog would stand very little chance to survive if I leave him. If I stay I could most probably pull us both through

                    Thats a risk many pet owners I know would be willing to take, but its not a decision they should have to make
                    And again, that's a risk and a choice you could make. I don't see why it's not a decision you shouldn't have to make, either.

                    There are people who feel just as attached to their machines, their cars, their homes, more so than their pets. They too have to make the choice on whether to remain with their property, or to evacuate, saving their lives--how is this any different?
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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by reds4ever
                      I'd stick it out with poor, innocent Naz while all the do gooders rescue all the axe murderers.
                      Nobody's innocent. Birth is a judgement that renders you guilty.

                      Politcal Correctness gone mad! Rape children and get rescued, lick your own b0llocks and be damned!
                      It has nothing to do with PC, and it's disingenuous of you to suggest that. It has everything to do with being biased towards my own species.

                      You're the one projecting humanity onto things which are not; if we get into the entire PC thing, you're the one who's more guilty of it, not me.
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                      • #41
                        We'll have to disagree here:
                        You can buy pets at a shelter for less than $500.
                        You cannot buy children.


                        Children are free... you have it with a member of the opposite gender without protection and there is a good chance you'll get a kid.

                        Try that with an animal of the opposite gender and see if its the same result .
                        “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
                        - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by Tattila the Hun

                          I'm surprised so few people have pigs as pets. Their meat is much better than dog's, in case of an emergency.
                          Dogs are kosher, greater consumption appeal to all creeds.
                          "Just puttin on the foil" - Jeff Hanson

                          “In a democracy, I realize you don’t need to talk to the top leader to know how the country feels. When I go to a dictatorship, I only have to talk to one person and that’s the dictator, because he speaks for all the people.” - Jimmy Carter

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
                            We'll have to disagree here:
                            You can buy pets at a shelter for less than $500.
                            You cannot buy children.


                            Children are free... you have it with a member of the opposite gender without protection and there is a good chance you'll get a kid.

                            Try that with an animal of the opposite gender and see if its the same result .
                            IS If i dig up the hospital bills from when we had POTM, think youd be willing to pay half?
                            "A person cannot approach the divine by reaching beyond the human. To become human, is what this individual person, has been created for.” Martin Buber

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
                              Children are free... you have it with a member of the opposite gender without protection and there is a good chance you'll get a kid.
                              Correction: children are worthless and priceless. Pets, on the other hand, have pricetags when you get them.

                              Try that with an animal of the opposite gender and see if its the same result .
                              Incidentally, it's suggested that humans have have gotten HIV from SIV.
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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by Ogie Oglethorpe


                                Dogs are kosher, :
                                No, actually.
                                "A person cannot approach the divine by reaching beyond the human. To become human, is what this individual person, has been created for.” Martin Buber

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