American Arrogance Rooted in Christian Beliefs

[Cort Haus]

Originally posted by lord of the mark
i dont really care that fundie christians think im going to hell. Who cares what they think. While lots of liberal Protestants, and lots of agnostics and atheists think that when terrrorists make a living hell for my people here on this earth, the best thing to do is to blame my people for defending themselves.

It's not lack of religion that deludes people into condemning a country for defending itself, but propaganda. The Vatican recently refused to condemn suicide bombings against Israelis and Anglican figures repeatedly denounce Israel. I won't start on the Vatican's WWII record.

It's true that the the Protestant Right are amongst the few defending Israel's right to defend itself, and I don't know why that is, but the reason why so many Christians, Muslims, atheists, agnostics and others blame Israel is simply because of the lies.

[C0ckney]

i'm both shocked and appalled that this frankly piss poor troll has generated so many serious replies

[Footie Mad]

Even if it's an exaggerated version of his opinions it could still be a good starting point for a debate.

[aneeshm]

Originally posted by BeBro



Random India hater:

"My views on this : I consider India a barbaric , imperialist country , which does not deserve to be called India (just because I don't like it) , and consider the Indian view of God and faith uncivilised and , in general , very backwards.

Want examples ? I've got many . Just ask ."

OK , give me some examples . I ask .

[aneeshm]

Re: Re: American Arrogance Rooted in Christian Beliefs

Originally posted by our_man

You're entitled to your views, although they're not very informed ones. I pity you, and I have to wonder made you hate Christianity so much.

Personally I find the cast system in India very backward, plus a whole host of other things, but that doesn't mean I think India is barbaric.

I do not hate Christianity , in the abstract . But I do despise its agents , and what they have attempted to do in India . I also dislike the fact that it allows only one method of reaching what it claims to be God , and also that it asks you to believe on faith , not experience . The harm caused by Christian missions cannot be overstated . I have examples , if you want them .


As for the caste system - I'm sick and tired of telling people that

a) It was a system of classification based on the type of work you do , not a system whereby you were born into one caste and had to stay there . Valmiki , the author of one of the two greatest Katha , was originally one of the casteless .

and that

b) Discrimination on the basis of caste has now been illegalised . In fact , there are seats reserved for the "Scheduled Castes / Scheduled Tribes" in all governmental institutions . In the cities , nobody cares what your caste is .

[OzzyKP]

Originally posted by C0ckney
i'm both shocked and appalled that this frankly piss poor troll has generated so many serious replies

[Boris Godunov]

Originally posted by Ben Kenobi
As opposed to the shores, where being a Christian is seen as being backwards and ignorant, as something to be ashamed? I find that very telling your reference to the 'heartland'.

Wow, that's pretty erroneous. Remind me again where one can find the highest concentration of Catholics in the U.S....

[Verto]

Re: Re: Re: American Arrogance Rooted in Christian Beliefs

Originally posted by aneeshm


I do not hate Christianity , in the abstract . But I do despise its agents , and what they have attempted to do in India . I also dislike the fact that it allows only one method of reaching what it claims to be God , and also that it asks you to believe on faith , not experience . The harm caused by Christian missions cannot be overstated . I have examples , if you want them .


As for the caste system - I'm sick and tired of telling people that

a) It was a system of classification based on the type of work you do , not a system whereby you were born into one caste and had to stay there . Valmiki , the author of one of the two greatest Katha , was originally one of the casteless .

and that

b) Discrimination on the basis of caste has now been illegalised . In fact , there are seats reserved for the "Scheduled Castes / Scheduled Tribes" in all governmental institutions . In the cities , nobody cares what your caste is .

I blame Britain. Without them, you'd still be doing god knows what, and our telemarketers would still speak English.

[MrFun]

WAAAAAAAH!!!!!!

I'm a Christian, so now Ted hates me.

[Verto]

You aren't Christian; you're gay!

[Patroklos]

I blame Britain. Without them, you'd still be doing god knows what, and our telemarketers would still speak English.

, I love Apoyton!

[Ted Striker]

[Urban Ranger]

Originally posted by Sandman
There are other Christian countries that aren't as arrogant. And it's not as if Christianity is an automatically arrogant religion.

I reckon it's more a case of Christianity being hooked onto arrogance spawned by other causes.

Sort of like Divine Right?

[DinoDoc]

You people are easy targets. It's sad really.

[Berzerker]

it's not as if Christianity is an automatically arrogant religion.

Religions are inherently arrogant, and so are we. Arrogance helps drive progress... albeit often in violent ways such as militarism... If someone is convined they found a special pipeline to the almighty, they're bound to feel better for themselves than they feel for the poor souls who haven't found enlightenment.