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  • we need more election maps in this thread.
    "I realise I hold the key to freedom,
    I cannot let my life be ruled by threads" The Web Frogs
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    • Originally posted by Atahualpa
      The greens are probably to bite into the sour apple, true... I've heard the FDP is trying to lure them on board.

      At least I think the Jamaika-Coalition has a higher chance of functioning than the Ampel, because the FDP's and the SPD's programs are quite incompatibel, whereas the greens could focus on their roots, omit the social part and go for ecology. They need not even lose that way if they do it clever that they carry off the bays for environmental politics.
      The problem with Jamaika is environmental politics. If the Greens would agree with a roll-back of the "exit from nuclear power production" (Atomausstieg), they would stop to be Greens. The CDU however made a promise, that it would roll back this nonsense as soon as they get back to power.

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      • Originally posted by Heresson
        we need more election maps in this thread.
        try this if you understand German.
        www.civforum.de

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        • Thanks, but it seems they want me to pay. Still, I manage to see small preview maps.
          "I realise I hold the key to freedom,
          I cannot let my life be ruled by threads" The Web Frogs
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          • It's like Civ 3...I wonder how many turns Germany will be in anarchy for. Will they end up being run by Jamaicans?
            Speaking of Erith:

            "It's not twinned with anywhere, but it does have a suicide pact with Dagenham" - Linda Smith

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            • Originally posted by Heresson
              Thanks, but it seems they want me to pay. Still, I manage to see small preview maps.
              They want you to install the Adobe plugin. Which is nothing wrong, but unnecessary.

              Try this link instead, it's a flash map from Spiegel, it also lets you look at the results of all parties within the districts, not only of the winners.

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              • "Football is like chess, only without the dice." Lukas Podolski

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                • I wouldn't do this, except you brought it up.

                  Do you believe that?
                  This was a quote from Mankiw. Economist with reputation and he worked for Bush. I could quote several other economists (with similar reputation)...and I saw the data they provided and I assume it was accurate. And I believe in empirical facts.

                  (Well, of course NRO-"economists" (or similar hacks) are too dumb to deflate the data and they are too dumb to calculate the per capita tax revenue. But these guys there have no reputation.)
                  "Football is like chess, only without the dice." Lukas Podolski

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                  • "It wasn't Laffer's tax cut idea, per se."

                    You doubt that the Laffer-Wanniski crew was convinced they were on the right side of the curve?
                    "Football is like chess, only without the dice." Lukas Podolski

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                    • "IIUC most studies in the US showed that the substitution effect dominated - IE higher taxes caused folks to work less - but not enough for higher taxes to mean less govt revenue. But that was at tax rates prevailing in the US"

                      Laffer curve is trivial. But several guys here in the media (and FDP hacks) claim that we are beyond the maximum without any empirical proof. Well, and we had tax cuts recently....and mebbe you heard that we have trouble with the maastricht criteria.
                      "Football is like chess, only without the dice." Lukas Podolski

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                      • er. uhm, so if you guys had a simple first past the post system, youd have a CD govt right now, no?
                        "A person cannot approach the divine by reaching beyond the human. To become human, is what this individual person, has been created for.” Martin Buber

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                        • so have i got this right

                          SD strongest in the industrial areas in the center, in the ruhr, in the Saar, in Hamburg. CD/CSU strongest in the catholic south, and in rural Rhineland.

                          Left strongest in the East, but SD still gets more votes, except for parts of East Berlin.

                          Greens scattered - heart of berlin, some other cities, and Freiburg????

                          FDP evenly all around except for the East?

                          Why is CD strong in southeast of former East?
                          "A person cannot approach the divine by reaching beyond the human. To become human, is what this individual person, has been created for.” Martin Buber

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                          • er. uhm, so if you guys had a simple first past the post system, youd have a CD govt right now, no?
                            Um, yes. But let me just quote a post from a different forum which I just read:

                            "Heck, I'd go so far as to say that, in a situation where the electorate is so clearly divided, it's a testament to the wisdom of the German system (and indeed, most parliamentary systems) that the various interests must find a way to share power, thus ensuring that a greater percentage of the population is represented."

                            I agree with this.
                            "Football is like chess, only without the dice." Lukas Podolski

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                            • Sir Ralph and siron - thanks
                              "I realise I hold the key to freedom,
                              I cannot let my life be ruled by threads" The Web Frogs
                              Middle East!

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                              • Why is CD strong in southeast of former East?
                                blue majorities in the East seem to correspond almost exactly with historical regions; the post-congress Saxony and Hinterpommern (or whatever). I guess at least in the first case it is not a coincidence
                                "I realise I hold the key to freedom,
                                I cannot let my life be ruled by threads" The Web Frogs
                                Middle East!

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