Another possible breach of Greek copyright discovered!???

[VetLegion]

Originally posted by Flubber
this Greek thing wasn't worthy to be called a "war" by itself any more than we refer to the German-Polish war of 1939

And the Finnish-Russian war that started three months after the begining of World War II is a separate and unrelated war?

You are embarassing yourself. Quit it while you can and post some pictures of naked polar bears, so that this thread won't be a total waste of time for the readers.

[VetLegion]

heck even the title of the picture is misleading since it was the germans that kicked Greek and British butt.

Seriously man, British didn't fight in The Winter War. You make ten sentences, you make ten historical mistakes in them. Terrible. You're the worst advocate of Finnish right to "Winter War" I have seen since this controversy started.

[Flubber]

Originally posted by VetLegion


And the Finnish-Russian war that started three months after the begining of World War II is a separate and unrelated war?

Separate : yes -- neither the Finns nor the Russians were combatants in WW2 at the time and the Brits were potential allies of the Finns but stayed out of it IIRC. . . and you may recall the Brits later allied with the Russians when they were ACTUALLY pulled into WW2 This Winter war ended with its own peace treaty PRIOR to the Russian involvement in WW2.

Unrelated : NO don't be silly-- Russia saw that the rest of the major powers were occupied elsewhere and attempted grand theft country. If WW2 was not ongoing I doubt they would have tried

[Colonâ„¢]

And don't forget the Brits held Cyprus at the time, which also was part of ancient Greece. So the Italians were definitely fighting against the Brits.

[VetLegion]

Separate : yes -- neither the Finns nor the Russians were combatants in WW2 at the time

Oh my God. Now you don't consider Poland a country.

The Polish September Campaign — also known as "Polish-German War of 1939", in Poland often as Wojna obronna 1939 roku ("Defensive War of 1939"), in Germany as "Polish Campaign" (Polenfeldzug), codenamed Fall Weiss (Case White) in the German General Staff — was the invasion of Poland by the armies of Nazi Germany, the Soviet Union, and a small contingent of Slovak forces during the Second World War. The campaign began on 1 September 1939, one week after the signing of the secret Hitler-Stalin Pact, and ended on 6 October 1939, with Germany and the Soviet Union occupying the entirety of Poland.

Flubber, this is a disaster

[Flubber]

Originally posted by VetLegion

heck even the title of the picture is misleading since it was the germans that kicked Greek and British butt.

Seriously man, British didn't fight in The Winter War.

17/04/1941 Yugoslavia surrenders, with the Wehrmacht taking 334, 000 prisoners. King Peter of Yugoslavia is flown to Athens and then on to London by the RAF.
18/04/1941 The German 12th Army forces a crossing of the river Aliakmon between the Greek First Army and the British forces. Athens is placed under martial law. Greek Prime Minister, Alexandros Korizis commits suicide.
19/04/1941 The Germans attack south through Greece on a wide front. The Greek Government agrees that British forces should be evacuated. General Wilson plans to make a strong stand at Thermopylae, to cover the withdrawal of his troops to ports in the Peloponnese.
20/04/1941 British forces in Greece retreat from Mt. Olympus. King George II heads new Greek government.
21/04/1941 The Greek Army surrenders to the 1st SS Leibstandarte Division. Its commander, Sepp Dietrich accepts this, without referring to his superiors. All Greek soldiers were allowed to return home, while officers were allowed to retain their side arms. Mussolini, upon hearing of this is furious and makes the Greeks sign another surrender document with much harsher terms.
23/04/1941 King George II of Greece and his government are flown to Crete by the RAF.
24/04/1941 German forces in Greece break through British positions at Thermopylae and land paratroops on Greek islands in the north-eastern Aegean. The British expeditionary force begins the evacuation of its troops to Egypt and Crete.
25/04/1941 German paratroops seize Corinth and cross the Corinth Canal to the Peloponnese. Hitler issues Directive No.28, ordering the preparation of plans to capture Crete. The basic plan is to involve 22,750 paratroops, 650 combat aircraft and is to be launched on the 18th May 1941, although this is put back to the 20th May 1941.
27/04/1941 German troops occupy Athens.
28/04/1941 The British evacuation of Greece is completed.

Source http://www.worldwar-2.net/timelines/...index-1941.htm

OR

When the Germans moved into Bulgaria in preparation for the invasion, Greece asked for British intervention. At the time of the German attack (6 April 1941) the bulk of the Greek forces were facing the Italians in Albania. Some of the remaining Greek forces were deployed in a line of fortifications along the Bulgarian frontier (the Metaxas_Line) and most of the rest were with the British intervention forces deploying north of Larissa. The British wanted the Greeks to abandon the Metaxas Line and deploy north of Larissa; the Greeks vacillated. The Germans invaded Yugoslavia at the same time as Greece and so were able to outflank the Metaxas line by moving through southern Yugoslavia. The Allied forces were forced south. German paratroops landed around the Corinth Canal sealing the fate of the Peloponnese. Because their army was mechanised the British managed to withdraw most of their troops; the slower Greek forces were captured by the Germans.

http://www.mlahanas.de/Greece/History/GrecoItalianWar.html

Thats two sources in two minutes but sure sure the Brits were never there

[Flubber]

Originally posted by VetLegion

Separate : yes -- neither the Finns nor the Russians were combatants in WW2 at the time

Oh my God. Now you don't consider Poland a country.

The Polish September Campaign — also known as "Polish-German War of 1939", in Poland often as Wojna obronna 1939 roku ("Defensive War of 1939"), in Germany as "Polish Campaign" (Polenfeldzug), codenamed Fall Weiss (Case White) in the German General Staff — was the invasion of Poland by the armies of Nazi Germany, the Soviet Union, and a small contingent of Slovak forces during the Second World War. The campaign began on 1 September 1939, one week after the signing of the secret Hitler-Stalin Pact, and ended on 6 October 1939, with Germany and the Soviet Union occupying the entirety of Poland.

Flubber, this is a disaster

In November 1939 please name ONE country that the Soviet Union was Officially at war with other than Finland. Your own source confirms that the Polish war was over in October although the occupation continued

And yes Poland is a country but I don't consider the 1939 Polish invasion to be a separate war, or the invasion of France, or the attack on pearl harbour. All were parts of one conflict. The Finnish war was different--it had only two participants and had a separate beginning and end independent of the wider conflict. When it ended I don't believe either country was at war with anyone else (but would have to check that)

[Flubber]

Originally posted by VetLegion
. You're the worst advocate of Finnish right to "Winter War" I have seen since this controversy started.

There's a controversy ???? I was just being sarcastic and having fun with someone flying the Finnish flag ( I don't recall if you are actually a Finn but assume yes)

and most Canadian would recognize the Finnish flag-- it figures prominently in the bronze medal position at hockey events

Next why not start a thread claiming Russian hockey supremecy over the Finns. Unfortunately no one could dispute that one

[Solomwi]

Flubber, I believe Vet's Croatian (dangerous guess, I know, so apologies in advance if I got the wrong Balkan country, VL).

And it's obvious that the pernicious Finns simply manipulated time itself in a transparent effort to lend legitimacy to their usurpation of the name of Greece's glorious Winter War.

[RGBVideo]

Flubber, you're being trolled all the time and you don't seem to realize it.

[Q Classic]

Originally posted by MarkG
racism

Trolls

( Ogres Elves Men Dwarves Greeks )

[Flubber]

Originally posted by Q Cubed


Trolls

( Ogres Elves Men Dwarves Greeks )

WTF -- how dare you criticize elves ?? They are pleasant little folks and in no way should be referred to in the same company as tthose other disagreeables

[Bereta_Eder]

canada

hamburger country

[Bereta_Eder]

btw finns indeed changed their flag because it was too similar to greek one.

[Bereta_Eder]

and the greek italian war in which a very small an unequiped country crushed a big power was not a scuffle of course. but canadians call a hangnail a war tragedy hhhhhhhhhhhhahha gays