Another possible breach of Greek copyright discovered!???

[Flubber]

Originally posted by MarkG
actually, (without wanting to spoil your fin-fun ) we dont call it "winter war"

Now MarkG-- surely you know that actual facts are extraneous

[Flubber]

Oh and I wanted to point out that no matter what any Danes may say, Canada has the clear claim to Hans island and we will prove it in a contest of any three sporting matches as long as they are all hockey and curling

[VetLegion]

Originally posted by Flubber


Since a "Greek site" would be the foremost authority on how the Finns may refer to their war??

Macedonians refer to themselves as Macedonians, and Greeks refer to them as FYROM. Your point? Are you going to argue that FYROMians can call themselves a historical Greek province just because they want to?

Your own pictures indicate that the Finnish war was FIRST so how did they copy a slightly later war ?? Did the Finnish war not have a name until after the Greek war was named ?

Did it occur to you that "Winter War" is an English term which neither of those countries originally used? Are you aware just how weak your argumentation is?

Are you aware that Finland didn't even exist when Theorakis from Xenissa wrote the first Spartan manual on winter warfare?

Canadian education system

[laurentius]

Actually Winter War is known as "the winter war" or "Talvisota" here in Finland.

[VetLegion]

My point exactly. "Talvisota", not "the winter war". "The winter war" is the translation in english.

[laurentius]

well in this case "talvi" means "winter" and "sota" means "war". So its rather direct translation.

[VetLegion]

Of course. The matter here is not how the translation was made, but when. The context. Also remember the etymology of those words (but let our Canadian discover it for himself).

[laurentius]

oh ok

[VetLegion]

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[VetLegion]

Flashing

[Flubber]

Originally posted by VetLegion


Macedonians refer to themselves as Macedonians, and Greeks refer to them as FYROM. Your point? Are you going to argue that FYROMians can call themselves a historical Greek province just because they want to?

What's your point? Are you going to argue that the Greek ice hockey team are truly the best in the world?

Originally posted by VetLegion



Did it occur to you that "Winter War" is an English term which neither of those countries originally used?

err yes-- kind of obvious actually-- also weakens your idea that the name was copied

Originally posted by VetLegion
Are you aware just how weak your argumentation is?

yes-- my argument is that a term like "winter war" should be reserved for a manly contest in the near arctic and not for a contest on a hilltop a few miles from beach resorts (although I do hear some Italians sufefred frostbite). Frankly the Italian-Greek thing probably doesn't even qualify as a separate "war " in its own right given how it was just a footnote in world war II amd involved the Brits, germans etc as well as the greeks and Italians. The Greeks lasted from October 28 to the end of April and were completely defeated.

The Finnish winter war occurred between two nations that were then not combatants in WW2 and the Finns put up a heroic and fierce defence and retained their sovereignty.

Therefore I think the term "THE WINTER WAR " should only refer to an actual war like this . I note that Wihipedia refers to the Finnish conflict as " the Winter War"

Originally posted by VetLegion

Are you aware that Finland didn't even exist when Theorakis from Xenissa wrote the first Spartan manual on winter warfare?

No I was not.

[C0ckney]

it just gets better

[VetLegion]

The Canadian is back after an hour and a half of intense surfing and learning about what winter is in the first place. And his arguments? Wikipedia!

Anyone, and I mean ANYONE can edit wikipedia. Even you could do it Flubber after a short course

So far you have:

- the snow wasn't thick enough in Greece
- wikipedia says something

I don't know which is more strawman. Be a man and accept defeat and I'll be magnanimous and not gloat about it. Fair?

[Flubber]

Originally posted by VetLegion


The Canadian is back after an hour and a half of intense surfing and learning about what winter is in the first place.

A Canadian has to learn what winter is ?? surely you jest. I was away to eat supper

I still don't think the Greek scuffle was a war in itself unless you think that WW2 should be considered to be 50 wars or so rather than one all encompassing conflict

heck even the title of the picture is misleading since it was the germans that kicked Greek and British butt .

Originally posted by VetLegion


And his arguments? Wikipedia!

Anyone, and I mean ANYONE can edit wikipedia.

Then I am shocked that outraged Greeks haven't overwhelmed the system with their changes

Originally posted by VetLegion


So far you have:

- the snow wasn't thick enough in Greece

No actually my argument has three parts

1. this Greek thing wasn't worthy to be called a "war" by itself any more than we refer to the German-Polish war of 1939

2. people in the 30s or 40s in latitude don't know anything about REAL winter OR do you want us to start talking about that big Canadian heat wave--Illogical huh if you talk about it on a world scale

3. The winter war title should REALLY be reserved for the upcoming winner take all hockey game on Hans island